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Palestinians: Israel simply is not yours
Chicago Sun Times ^ | From September 9, 2001 | NEIL STEINBERG

Posted on 12/03/2001 1:51:30 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh

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It has often been said, but we did not listen. It has been written, but we paid no heed.
Are we paying attention yet?
1 posted on 12/03/2001 1:51:30 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Glad you posted this on it's own thread. Early East Coast AM Bump!

How much longer can we allow a culture to exist that supports and condones this?:

It's to the point where we just can't allow societies to exist, that raise kids like this, espouse ideologies like this. Islam is not a religion - it's a political system with religious underpinnings with a death wish.

2 posted on 12/03/2001 2:07:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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Exerpt:

Netanyahu, 51, said three things must first be asked and then answered if the war on terrorism is to be won: "The first is, who's doing it? The second is, why are they doing it? The third is, what do we do about it? What do we do to defeat them?"

The former Israeli prime minister then answered his own queries.

"The first thing to understand is that there is no international terrorism, none whatsoever, without the support of sovereign states. It is simply impossible to sustain an effective terrorist attack for months or years without the support of the terror regimes that stand behind them," he said. "They do not work from a cafe in Milan and a burger joint in New Jersey. It just doesn't work that way. The terrorist leadership must have a headquarters, must have a place where they can hatch their plots, arm their killers and be protected so they're not on the run all the time."

Netanyahu said there were very few of these "sovereign states" in the world today. In his view, this small group included Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Arafat's dictatorship "and one or two other middle-eastern states such as Sudan. That's it." He pointed out that Osama bin Laden, the former Saudi multimillionaire, had been given safe harbor by a few of the above-named countries.

The next question Netanyahu asked was, why are the terrorists doing it?

"Although the various constituencies of this terror network have their own pet enemies and sometimes even have internal rivals — the Taliban and the Iranians fighting — each one wants to be the king of the Islamic area," said Netanyahu. "Though they're fighting and though they have their own separate agendas, at the heart of this terror network is a military Islam that seeks, that is guided, that is fueled by the very powerful anti-western mentality and behavior."

Therefore, said Netanyahu, "When you hear that the militant Islamists hate the west because of Israel, they actually have it the other way around. They hate Israel because of the west. They hate Israel because it represents an island of western values, of liberties, in a sea of what otherwise would be a completely unified Muslim-Arab sea. They hate any western presence there, for hundreds of years."

But at the same time, Netanyahu said, these terrorist networks have "cells of militant believers in the west creating a new brand of what I call domestic international terrorism. They live in America to wage jihad against her buttressed by the organizations that are housed in the home states. I said that this creates an entirely new threat because these groups could serve so that you would not need intercontinental ballistic missiles as delivery systems for Islamic nuclear payloads."

Now the question is, Netanyahu said, what do we do?

"The first thing to understand is exactly what President Bush said in his historic speech before Congress: 'to make no distinction between the terrorist organizations and the regimes that harbor them.' That's the starting point," said Netanyahu. "You can hit the terrorists again and again and again. It won't stop them."

And Netanyahu warned: "You can only win internationally if you have moral fiber, because what the terrorists do, and the terrorist regimes behind them try to do, is to create a moral confusion. What terrorism does is to deliberately and systematically attack civilians to gain political ends. In this, terrorism is very different from the unintentional killing of civilians that very often accompanies legitimate acts. What terrorism does is obliterate the line drawn by humanity in the last 150 years in various conventions."

He advocated providing "our governments the necessary moral backing to pursue this war against all the slings of criticism and opposition. Or, we can push the collective snooze button and go to sleep. If we do," he said. "We incur our common disaster."

3 posted on 12/03/2001 2:23:05 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
A very, very astute, learned man who is right on the money. Israel does itself a distinct disservice not having Bibi as head of its government. I stop and listen every time I hear him.

Love, Do

4 posted on 12/03/2001 3:46:58 AM PST by Clifdo
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Your excerpts all ought to be full article posts, if they aren't already. Netanyahu gets it. Let's hope that we, as a people, do also.
5 posted on 12/03/2001 3:49:41 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Read, bumped and will be bumping throughout the day.

This should be required reading. I was explaining this to my 7 year old daughters this am while watching the news. Kids that age have a way of cutting to the heart of the matter. And then I have to give then a simple, easy to understand answer. Even THEY get it.

Now if we could just get more grown ups to think like 7 year olds. But not like the 7 year olds wearing explosives around their waist and watching "Kill all infidels ala Sesame Street" morning programing, I mean brainwashing.

6 posted on 12/03/2001 4:52:09 AM PST by Weatherman123
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Excellent! Big analogous bump!
7 posted on 12/03/2001 4:54:49 AM PST by Alouette
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To: Alouette
Keeping it bumped. I hope more people read this.
8 posted on 12/03/2001 5:00:55 AM PST by Weatherman123
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To: Weatherman123; Alouette; Clifdo; FreedomPoster
G-d bless you for reading this. Even more, bless you for understanding.

To Justice,
Nix

9 posted on 12/03/2001 5:09:33 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Very well put!
10 posted on 12/03/2001 5:18:16 AM PST by Valin
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
bumping again!
11 posted on 12/03/2001 5:44:21 AM PST by Weatherman123
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Great stuff bump.
12 posted on 12/03/2001 6:02:08 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
If you mean by "why," what is the real motivation behind what they're doing, then fine, I agree but if you mean "why," in the social context, who cares?
13 posted on 12/03/2001 7:14:40 AM PST by elephantlips
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I'm sorry. I've been up all night and day, and I just don't understand your post. What do you mean? Are you talking about the first article or the Netanyahu article?
14 posted on 12/03/2001 7:55:31 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
BUMP for an *excellent* read.

Every day Netanyahu is not at the head of the Israeli Government, they do themselves a great dis-service.

Bibi gets it. Put him back in power, and watch how fast Arafat and his ilk run for their lives.

The only difference between Arafat and Bin Laden (as Bibi Netanyahu himself pointed out this morning on Fox news) is 20 years additional experience. Bin Laden is Arafat, 20 years ago.

Netanyahu is right. Where's our CIA? Why aren't we eliminating these two terrorists?? Take out Arafat, we kill one part of the snake. Take out Bin Laden, we eliminate the other.

It's really that simple.

15 posted on 12/03/2001 8:02:02 AM PST by usconservative
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Nice read. Thanks for posting this.
16 posted on 12/03/2001 9:50:19 AM PST by LincolnLover
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To: FreedomPoster
That picture sums up for me completely the mindset of the muslims.
17 posted on 12/03/2001 9:52:29 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: LincolnLover
Thank YOU. I hope it does some good. I tried several times to tell some of the people on the board that hatred is irrational. But they were too irrational to care.
18 posted on 12/03/2001 10:35:34 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
bump
19 posted on 12/03/2001 12:44:10 PM PST by SKempis
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Bump
20 posted on 12/05/2001 1:14:03 AM PST by csap
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