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"IT" Revealed - (Ginger)
TIME.Com ^ | 12/2/2001 | JOHN HEILEMANN

Posted on 12/02/2001 6:56:41 PM PST by Enlightiator

The Time article:

"Reinventing the Wheel"

The "flash" view.


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To: syriacus
Because some people like to be out and around, touching, smelling and looking at solid objects sometimes.

Yes, grocery shopping on the internet, with home delivery, has not panned out so far, with the failure of NetGrocer, and the imminent failure of Peapod. I have always tried to use these services where available, not enough hours in the day, and getting the stuff home is a problem for me.

441 posted on 12/03/2001 2:49:49 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
442 posted on 12/03/2001 2:52:12 PM PST by Donald Stone
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To: ambrose
I find it kind of sad that all the sci-fi writers back in the 70's envisioned flying cars

They started writing about that back in the 20's and 30's (read Hugo Gernsback's stuff -- just don't look for literature). To date nobody has licked the air traffic control problem.

443 posted on 12/03/2001 2:54:08 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: July 4th
...but that guy with his helmet on the Segway just kept a thousand from being sold.

Heck, I thought he looked macho -- of course I thought Dukakis in the tank looked macho, so what do I know.

444 posted on 12/03/2001 2:56:07 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: toast
I'm wondering if you could use this motor to propel a surfboard.

I'm getting too old and out of shape to go surfing anymore, LOL !!!!!!!

I certainly wouldn't object to a little mechanical propulsion.

445 posted on 12/03/2001 2:57:01 PM PST by Donald Stone
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To: yall
Stand and Deliver

The Freepathon is on!!

This is an expensive operation

To keep it Going
Click the Logo
For the Secure Server

So9

446 posted on 12/03/2001 2:59:29 PM PST by Servant of the Nine
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"With Dems in the House, they will certainly get federal funding with our tax dollars."

With dems in the house they'll probably mandate the d****d thing!

447 posted on 12/03/2001 3:00:18 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: JeepInMazar; Libertarian_4_eva
Hehe nothing looks lamer then someone wearing a bike helmet.

When I see an adult wearing one, I can't help but to think of when we put them on "challenged" people to keep them from hurting themselves.

I think people who wear these helmets are challenged as well.

448 posted on 12/03/2001 3:10:47 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: sweetliberty
Heck, 9 months sooner and we all could have had one of those instead of a muffler! nyuk nyuk nyuk
449 posted on 12/03/2001 3:22:01 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: discostu; Zon
With all due respect fellows, and slightly off topic, someone (who, moi?) ought to write and publish an essay on how to write and read dry wit, irony, sarcasm, satire and such without the requisite laugh tracks, preambles (Bob Hope's MO: "Now I'm going to tell you a joke",) or so-called sarcasm tags.

I just happen to be reading Voltaire's "Candide" and I see no signs of any "sarcasm tags" in it. But I notice certain clues such as over the top statements, exaggeration, subversion of common cliches, outrageous claims, poses, pretended stupidity, funny word spellings, and similar devices. I saw Kinky Friedman at a book reading a few weeks ago and he explained (or complained) that he no longer did musical tours in this country because of the scandals his appearances were causing with songs like "They Don't Make Jews Like Jesus Any More" (/sarcasm tag!)

Some of us refuse to use these "sarcasm tags" here because we think we plant enough clues for critical readers to recognize the nature of our posts. Certainly, at times the clues are insufficiently clear or not strong enough but I don't think anyone in this group does it wanting to feel superior to those who just don't get it. Tongue in cheek is no longer tongue in cheek when accompanied by a laugh track and most things on television with laugh tracks wouldn't be funny without them (And aren't funny with them, either, if you axe me!) Cheers!

450 posted on 12/03/2001 3:39:08 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
What is your other screen name on FR? Or the one you had when you got banned?

Question for you RedBloodedAmerican: Have you stopped beating your wife?

How do you like it when someone insinuates that you have beat your wife? Well, I don't like it when you insinuate that I was kicked off FR or had a different screen name because neither happened.

Suck it up dude. You failed to articulate what you meant in your post and you blamed me for that. Instead of acknowledging your mistake you blame me. And now, after I had pointed that out you continue to attack me rather than acknowledge your mistake. It's always the writers responsibility to make his point clear and not blame the reader.

451 posted on 12/03/2001 4:25:13 PM PST by Zon
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Rumour has it possibly even the funeral industry.

Yes, I have read about that. It will be as big a factor as such things that now have promise like telmore research, gene therapy and DNA manipulation. But the point is that it's an obvious direction that on several fronts technology/medical researchers are striving to meet the goal of biologic immortality. Importantly, non-aging and youth rejuvinating immortality.

452 posted on 12/03/2001 4:32:50 PM PST by Zon
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To: July 4th
that guy with his helmet on the Segway just kept a thousand from being sold.

You don't understand PR and how the media and government really operate. Had he not been wearing a helmet the mainstream media and government would keep a million from being sold. One can only guess at how often people think they're doing good when in fact they're shooting themselves in the foot because they fail to understand the media stooges, politicians and bureaucrats' value destroying modus operandi.

453 posted on 12/03/2001 4:40:07 PM PST by Zon
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To: UofHoustonRepublican
*Psssh* forget those. Give me a loud Shelby GT500 any day!

Have you seen the BMW Z8? Beautiful, (and only about 45 times the price).

454 posted on 12/03/2001 4:41:00 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Zon
Beating a wife is equated with getting booted off FR? Your poor wife!

It is the writers fault when you can't comprehend the English language?

So long.

455 posted on 12/03/2001 4:42:46 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: the bottle let me down
I can't believe the shortsightedness of most of the posts in this thread. It is NOT a car and not meant to be one. Kamen himself has said "cars are great for long trips". Obviously none or few of you live in a big city. The busses suck and this will be a wonderful alternative. It will get me to work in the spring/summer/fall months much quicker than a bus or a bike and I won't be all sweaty when I arrive. This IS something very special as it uses gravity to propel it as opposed to brute force as everything up till now has. AND It is silent and clean. I think this is only the beginning......
456 posted on 12/03/2001 4:50:31 PM PST by Musket
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To: Enlightiator

Bring on the Skycar!!


457 posted on 12/03/2001 4:59:39 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Enlightiator
Frankly, I don't get what all the fuss is about. It can't get anyone to work faster (12 mph speed max). I could walk the 17 miles worth of battery time, and be a whole lot healthier for it. Where in the world would one go on It except to the mailbox? Grocery shopping? I think not. Isn't that what Excursions and other SUV'S were made for? Besides, just how safe can a body be on it? Someone, please tell me what is to be gained from this thing? Sorry, from this "It"...
458 posted on 12/03/2001 4:59:48 PM PST by B52Bomber
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To: Revolting cat!
I just happen to be reading Voltaire's "Candide" and I see no signs of any "sarcasm tags" in it.

Is that a hodge-podge of several authors varying view points and writing styles? No. But you already knew that, right? I assume you consider yourself a critical reader, thus you do understand. I'm a critical thinker and understand rationalizations.

Some of us refuse to use these "sarcasm tags" here because we think we plant enough clues for critical readers to recognize the nature of our posts.

I found that critical readers' thinking goes something like this: "well, I think it's obvious sarcasm (darn, I wish I had read a history of his posts so that I could discern his style --sort of like reading a book I get to know the author's style over several pages), but I may be wrong. So which way do I respond. It seems like over kill to posit both scenarios in my reply. And it seems a waste of time if I go one way and he meant the other. How much effect is gained or lost when a sarcasm tag is included? And that must be compared to how much effect is lost when people get the wrong idea or chose the wrong route?"

Perhaps a snotty :) "I'm writing to highbrows" tag would help us normal (whatever that is) people to avoid the intentional lack of clarity that the highbrows shroud themselves with. No problem with writing to a particular segment, but if you want to limit the confusion from outsiders then use the highbrow tag. 

In my three-and-a-half years experience on this board I have seen more people use the "I was being sarcastic" escape to extricate themselves from a sticky situation than the highbrow approach (you're the first I've seen/read). You offer a new twist to that, IMO. Rationalization is a faulty crutch. ...That's not an opinion, it's a fact.

459 posted on 12/03/2001 5:21:11 PM PST by Zon
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Heck, 9 months sooner and we all could have had one of those instead of a muffler! nyuk nyuk nyuk

LOL. Hey, lets melt Daschle's phone lines and demand our IT!

460 posted on 12/03/2001 5:24:33 PM PST by JeepInMazar
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