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To: Twodees
With all due respect, buddy, I suggest you grow a pair.

With all due respect, buddy, I suggest you really think about the domestic political consequences of an attack with WMDs. If the Abduls set off a suitcase nuke in New York or Washington, or kill a million people with Sarin gas in Atlanta, you are not going to be able to stop a sudden and serious decline in your freedoms. Big talk is going to stop nothing. Neither is your Glock.

Really, seriously, imagine your reaction if you log in here one morning and the first hints of something big start popping up. "Something weird is going on. I'm in a high rise in Atlanta, and the streets are full of people twitching on the sidewalks. And the cars are crashing into poles. Anybody know what's going on?" By the end of the morning they've identifed the agent as Sarin and tell everybody to 'get the Hell out of Dodge'. By noon there are an estimated 300,000 dead. By the end of the week they've put the death toll at a little over a million people.

All life is tradeoffs. The tradeoff here is to accept that there's going to be a little rough racial profiling for a while, or to bravely stop that and then watch the whole thing come down on your head when a million of your fellow citizens die in an attack. You know there is not going to be a second such attack. We'll have martial law first. You can stand there and scream "grow a pair!" all you want, but no one serious is going to listen to you while crazy people are annihilating entire cities. We really are up against that here... capice? Pakistan really does have nuclear weapons. We've seen the tests. Their intelligence service is full of guys who make Mullah Omar sound like Billy Graham. We've heard the speeches.

There is a real threat to the Constitution here, but it's not from trying to catch the perps. The threat is from our own people, should the perps succeed.


173 posted on 12/02/2001 2:15:53 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: Nick Danger
With all due respect, buddy, I suggest you really think about the domestic political consequences of an attack with WMDs. If the Abduls set off a suitcase nuke in New York or Washington, or kill a million people with Sarin gas in Atlanta, you are not going to be able to stop a sudden and serious decline in your freedoms. Big talk is going to stop nothing. Neither is your Glock.

That's the other problem with sacrificing the freedoms Bush wants...it DOESN'T protect us against this sort of attack in the future. That's just wishful thinking.
178 posted on 12/02/2001 3:12:03 PM PST by Maelstrom
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To: Nick Danger
Sure, Nick. The feds did such a mervelous job in preventing what the enemy did on 9/11, that we need to scrap who we are as a nation to give them another shot at defense. Sorry, but I'm just not that scared.
180 posted on 12/02/2001 3:32:11 PM PST by Twodees
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