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To: liberallarry
After reading the response I see Mosher's article is quite slanted and biased (deliberately so since he didn't reveal some very important and relevant things about his background) - although not necessarily entirely wrong.

Why exactly does Mosher's background matter? Everyone has a bias, the question is whether what he says is true or not?

But it's the Freepers responses that really trouble me. Hitler explicitly cited America's treatment of blacks and Indians as a model for his actions. He also credited Henry Ford for his anti-Semitism. I see no mention of this among Freepers. The South of that time was filled to the brim with people whose attitudes made Sanger's (even Mosher's view of them) look tame. No criticism from Freepers.

Nobody is defending the mistreatment of the Indians and nobody is defending the real evils of the Old South. (I certainly don't) However, Sanger's twisted views are being perpetuated by the population controllers every day, and the folks at Planned Parenthood and IPPF are her chief defenders.

The logic seems to go like this: Sanger advocated birth control. Sanger was a racist and a eugenicist. Hitler was a racist and a eugenicist. Therefore birth control is evil.

Not exactly, what Mosher is referring to is not just birth control, but coercive population control measures which are being carried out throughout the world in the name of 'reproductive freedom.' In reality, it is just the eugenic movement repackaged.

76 posted on 12/02/2001 10:33:53 AM PST by st.smith
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To: st.smith
"Everyone has a bias, the question is whether what he says is true or not"

Ideally, that's true. But in reality a person's background predisposes (prejudices) how one receives what he has to say. I trusted the WSJ so I didn't question the article. After reading the Sanger project criticism I've concluded that my trust was misplaced. Had I known Mr. Mosher's background I wouldn't have been as trusting. That's how it works for me...and for everyone else.

"However, Sanger's twisted views are being perpetuated by the population controllers every day, and the folks at Planned Parenthood and IPPF are her chief defenders."

Then let's talk about population controllers, Planned Parenthood, and IPPF. Sanger's views - and whether they are or are not twisted - are not relevant. (But the article after all was about Sanger. It wasn't I who tried to say that her views were twisted, and that therefore population control, etc. is evil)

"Not exactly, what Mosher is referring to is not just birth control, but coercive population control measures which are being carried out throughout the world in the name of 'reproductive freedom.' In reality, it is just the eugenic movement repackaged."

I don't agree, but that too is irrelevant. If you want to talk about population control, let's do that. (I can't talk about the eugenics movement. I know only roughly what it was all about)

79 posted on 12/02/2001 11:20:04 AM PST by liberallarry
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