[montag813]

but many advances have come from past Islamic empires...mathematical advances for one...

Most scientific advances by the Arab world were Pre-Mohammeddan. In astronomy, for example. And also in medicine. These advances and the advancement of science in general, came to a grinding halt under the intellectual oppression of Islam.

Islam was the worst thing which ever happened to the Arab world, and guaranteed they would have no place among the great modern civilizatons.

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[Frances_Marion]

That's true, but occupied Spain was an exception. It was a center of science and scholars for quite a few years there....