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To: The Energizer; First_Salute; Ragtime Cowgirl; OKCSubmariner; rdavis84; golitely
excerpts from the FR post discussing the Insight article Trie's Deadly Deal (linked below)

To: HAL9000; Plummz; OKCSubmariner; Fred Mertz; Wallaby; rubbertramp; rdavis84; aristeides

could there be a "wildcard" 4th source of weapons grade anthrax?
could the 4th source be producing the "US" strain?
could the New Science piece be leading us away from the 4th source?

click the following link for Insight Mag's full article: Trie's Deadly Deal....biotech transfer

28 posted on 11/2/01 11:20 AM Pacific by thinden

To: Lazamataz; joanie-f; Lecie; ironman; Travis McGee; M Kehoe; Nogbad

"Peter Fu, a toxicology expert at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s research facility on the grounds of the Pine Bluff military arsenal in Arkansas" Government funded laboratories complex, nationwide, obsessed with zero tolerance for anybody who would dare take security steps, THEN, to discriminatingly observe security measures.

If you want to keep your job, look the other way whenever a "protected minority" wanders about un-checked. Thank Clinton-dom's political correctness.

12 posted on 10/25/01 7:34 AM Pacific by First_Salute

To: HAL9000

FYI:

According to the FBI summaries, Trie said Fu and his wife, Violetta, were “silent partners” in the formation of Trie’s Daihatsu International Trading Inc. and invested thousands of dollars in start-up capital. According to government sources who have seen Trie’s full FBI interviews, the Fu’s gave Trie $40,000 in “start-up capital” for this joint venture.

In fact, Fu tells Insight in an exclusive interview that he was not a “partner” with Trie and did not invest money in Daihatsu, per se. But he admits that he and his wife lent the Tries $40,000 as a favor and that the loan was repaid. At the same time, Fu acknowledges that the registered mailing address for Daihatsu was Fu’s home in Little Rock, Ark. “At that time [December 1991], Charlie’s wife and my wife tried to open a company,” Fu tells Insight. Mrs. Fu quit the business after a few weeks, Fu says. “Violetta felt she was incapable of handling the business because of lack of experience and lack of language ability.” He says he is not aware of any business conducted by Daihatsu or United Biotech, another trading company registered by Trie during the 1992 presidential campaign season.

22 posted on 10/25/01 10:03 AM Pacific by thinden

To: Mudboy Slim

Not China, but as long as we're talking about the Clinton administration, how did Bioport get the contract to produce the anthrax vaccine for our troops?

Scroll down to "Anthrax Issues"
Anthrax Vaccine Crowe British

From: How Bioport Finds the Admiral

According to Coupe, when Crowe returned from England in 1997, he was approached by Fuad El-Hibri's father, Ibrahim El-Hibri. The elder El-Hibri, whom the admiral had met a decade before, invited Crowe to serve on the board of Intervac.

"The admiral is commonly referred to as the person who bought this," says Coupe, "and while I don't want to minimize his involvement, he's had no financial involvement either way - giving or getting any money."

Another 30 percent of Intervac shares are owned by Nancy El-Hibri, a mother and homemaker in suburban Maryland and the rest of the company is in the hands of "I&F Holdings," a company directed by Nancy El-Hibri's father-in-law, Ibrahim El-Hibri, a Venezuelan citizen, and her husband, Fuad El-Hibri, a German citizen of Lebanese descent.

Fuad El-Hibri appears to be the real day-to-day director of Intervac and is listed by Dun & Bradstreet as the "chief executive" of Bioport. Mrs. El-Hibri laughed when questioned by a reporter for ABC about Intervac and referred the network to her husband who did not return a call.

Experts in defense policy suggested that the Pentagon would be highly unlikely to approve the sale to a foreign national of a company that is the sole manufacturer of a vaccine considered vital to national security. Coupe says that Crowe's ownership of Intervac stock gives him a 13 percent share of Bioport. The only US company given the anthrax vaccine contract. Crowe - a friend of Bill.

32 posted on 10/25/01 3:17 PM Pacific by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: one_particular_harbour

(Trie) He also confessed to orchestrating the sale of a 500-liter (130-gallon) medical fermentation device to a pharmaceutical plant in China suspected of manufacturing chemical and biological agents for military purposes.

The evidence of the fermenting machine’s sale and transfer sometime in 1993 to the Changchun Biological Products Institute is alarming, according to Leitner, given that the Chinese facility has been flagged by some experts as a biological-weapons laboratory run by the People’s Liberation Army.

The 500-liter fermentation tank transferred to the Changchun facility would be prohibited for sale by the Department of Defense’s Militarily Critical Technologies List because it allows the manufacture of large quantities of biological agents, such as botulism or anthrax bacteria the transfer of the highly sophisticated pharmaceutical-grade fermenting machine poses significant risks to U.S. security at home and abroad if used to make advanced germ-warfare products such as anthrax and botulism.

Here we have an FDA guy who is head of the toxicology branch of his lab, who gives Trie $40,000 and gets introduced to the manager of a bioweapons program in China. They gave direct assistance to a biological-weapons program, and the FBI did not follow up.

You don't see the relevance to today's international situation or the Clinton administration's culpability here? We must be reading different articles.

34 posted on 10/25/01 3:26 PM Pacific by Ragtime Cowgirl
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14 posted on 11/29/2001 12:57:32 PM PST by thinden
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To: thinden
Thanks for the ping. (^:
19 posted on 11/29/2001 2:21:03 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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