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To: dirtboy
This article isn't about the Le Figaro story, although it would be important if true (I'll believe it isn't true if Le Figaro itself retracts it - it is a very reputable paper - the largest in France).

The story is about the enormous amount of information the CIA had concerning the 9-11 attack PRIOR to the attack. In addition to what Ruppert cites above, there is also Janes Intelligence Weekly's story that the Mossad sent over here a high level delegation to the CIA four weeks before that attack, and they told the CIA that there was a massive attack coming involving about 200 Al-Qaida operatives.

In response to all of the information they were getting, the CIA and FBI did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as far as anyone can tell. No questioning of known Al-Qaida suspects in the U.S. No one was rounded up.

Why the apparent lack of activity by our CIA and FBI after getting so many warnings from so many reputable sources? One must start worrying about either serious incompetence, or possible complicity. If complicity was involved, it may be that they didn't expect more than a multiple hijacking of limited consequences and were tragically mistaken.

18 posted on 11/29/2001 8:08:36 AM PST by Magician
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To: Magician
This article isn't about the Le Figaro story

But if the article starts out with a refuted story, WHY THE HECK SHOULD I BELIEVE ANY OF THE OTHER CRAP IN IT?

20 posted on 11/29/2001 8:12:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Magician
The story is about the enormous amount of information the CIA had concerning the 9-11 attack PRIOR to the attack.

Why do you assume the story has the truth?

23 posted on 11/29/2001 8:15:49 AM PST by mlo
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To: Magician
I'll believe it isn't true if Le Figaro itself retracts it

And since newspapers NEVER retract ANYTHING unless either sued or threatened with lawsuits, something the CIA, with its "never confirm or deny" policy, would ever do, this decision of yours leaves you sitting pretty either way, doesn't it?

Sorry. Real life doesn't work that way.


27 posted on 11/29/2001 8:22:35 AM PST by Timesink
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To: Magician
Ask yourself, "If the Taliban were a creature of Pakistan and its ISI, why, oh why, would they have not immediately cooperated with any effort by evil, greedy Big Oil to build a pipeline across Afghanistan?"

Who would have the most to gain from an Afghanistan pipeline? On whose coastline would it terminate? Who has no indigenous petroleum production and thirsts for a reliable supply? Who wants to be a player?

The answer to all the above questions is "Pakistan".

The whole "Big Oil-Afghanistan pipeline-9/11 Conspiracy Theory" is a shameless bunch of unsupportable crap, packaged by scam artists preying on poor souls desperate to believe in conspiracies.

Ruppert is only one of them.

52 posted on 11/29/2001 9:30:00 AM PST by okie01
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To: Magician
I can't imagine this thread hasn't been pulled yet. You must learn not to post these kinds of stories because most don't want to consideer one iota of possibility that some in our government are corrupt. Remember, the corrupt ones were ALL democrats under Clinton. Bush and company remain above reproach because he is a Republican. Got it?
64 posted on 11/29/2001 9:55:52 AM PST by Osinski
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To: Magician
1998 and 2000 - Former President George H.W. Bush travels to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the U.S.

The Carlyle Group is an investment vehicle, not a defense contractor.

This is an extremely sloppy article.

74 posted on 11/29/2001 10:16:20 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Magician
Carlyle isn't a "defense contractor," they just invest heavily in defense and just happens to have ex-defense secretary Carlucci running the show, with a couple of other interesting folks as well. Hmmmmm?.

Veritas Capital Equity Firms See Dollar Signs As Defense Companies Sell Units








 


Equity Firms See Dollar Signs As Defense Companies Sell Units

As the Pentagon examines ways to modernize the U.S. military, Veritas Capital Inc., a New York based private equity investment firm, sees increased opportunities for acquiring mid-sized defense businesses from larger defense contractors.

“We see a lot of opportunities in the component manufacture and subsystems area,” said Robert McKeon, president of Veritas Capital. The firm intends to focus on defense firms with sales of $50 million to $500 million, McKeon said.

In June, Veritas Capital bought a majority share of the Madison, Miss.-based Raytheon Aerospace Co., the aerospace business of Raytheon Co., Lexington, Mass, for $270 million. As the major defense contractors continue to trim their portfolio by focusing on major platforms and systems integration, components and subsystems work is likely to become a non-core activity for such large firms, McKeon said.

Defense companies are stable and less risky than most commercial businesses, and offer an opportunity to work on high technology, global-scale projects, McKeon said, explaining Veritas Capital’s interest in the sector. Eighteen mergers and acquisitions were concluded in the mid-sized defense segment during 1995, but that number rose to 61 completed transactions in 1998, McKeon said. “I would expect that number to increase in the next few years,” he added.

Private equity firms like Veritas Capital, with expertise in investing in the highly volatile telecommunications and high-technology sectors, will be able to apply lessons learned in the commercial world to the defense area, said Jay Korman, analyst at DFI International, a defense consulting firm here. That expertise would be valuable as the U.S. military increasingly is becoming dependent on electronic sensors and systems to fight future wars, Korman added.

Private equity firms create a capital fund by raising money from a small group of investors to buy undervalued companies and resell them for a profit. In the process, such firms bring financial discipline and help to reduce the cycle time from design to production of a weapon system, Korman said.

The Carlyle Group, based here, headed by former U.S. Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci, is considered by analysts to be one of the largest private equity funds active in the defense and aerospace industry, with a $12.5 billion capital fund. In June 2000, the Carlyle Group bought the commercial aerostructures division of Northrop Grumman Corp., Los Angeles, for $843 million.

Veritas Capital currently has a $175 million fund and plans to raise another $300 million, McKeon said.

Many private equity funds have stayed away from the defense sector, since they see the sector as too risky and highly tied to politics, said David Snow, editor of PrivateEquityCentral.net, New York, an online trade news service. “Most [private equity] firms would rather not deal with politics,” Snow said.

The Carlyle Group’s focus on the defense and aerospace sector comes from its extensive contacts here and in other world capitals, Snow said. For instance, former U.S. President George Bush is a senior adviser to the group, and John Major, the former prime minister of Great Britain, was recently appointed as the chairman of the company’s European operations. Veritas Capital, while not boasting of former presidents and prime ministers on its board, counts among its advisers several retired senior U.S. military officials.

Working in a highly regulated industry is not new to many private equity firms, Korman of DFI International said. Many of these firms have invested in the telecommunications and health care industries, which are equally highly regulated and just as politicized as the defense sector, he said. But unlike the telecommunications and health care sectors, there is just one customer in the defense sector, and knowledge of government procurement practices is essential, Korman said.

While defense procurement practices are highly bureaucratic, the benefits are equally rewarding, since “the Pentagon has deep pockets,” he added.

8/6/2001

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87 posted on 11/29/2001 10:55:59 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: Magician
Somewhere I read an article about a 1999 CIA report on Bin Laden's brothers operating some offshore businesses for him through some banks on the Turkish side of Cyprus.

Still, the US got bin Laden's family safely out of the US immediately after 9-11.
97 posted on 11/29/2001 3:08:43 PM PST by fliberman
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