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To: medved

The basic truth is that Halton Arp and other totally competent people have provided sufficient counterexamples for the notion of redshift indicating speed of recession, that the idea needs to be abandoned, and there is no other basis, to my knowledge, for believing in anything like big bang. The idea of all the matter in the universe somehow blasting its way out of the ultimate black hole of all time is merely stupid. The idea of space itself expanding from nothing is idiotic and, to my thinking, somebody would have to be stoned out of his mind to buy off on it.

Halton Arp is a good scientist, but unfortunately he has been unable to let go of a dead theory more than 15 years after it has been shown to be completely off-base. His theory relies on a misunderstanding of prejection effects, as well as probability theory. A good scientist involves being a good promoter, but it also relies on you admitting you are wrong and giving up when you realize this. Dr. Arp hasn't been able to do that.

146 posted on 11/30/2001 7:06:04 AM PST by ThinkPlease
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Arp has provided a number of high redshift objects and low redshift objects which are clearly joined together and are part and parcel of the same thing. Arp is not the one in denial here.
148 posted on 11/30/2001 7:18:26 AM PST by medved
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