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To: Tribune7
"Let's suppose this camp was affiliated with a Christian church and there was concerns of pedophilia taking place there. Would you object to its permit being pulled? Without evidence or due process, the camp should remain open. The town board in this case even stated there was no evidence of any illegal activity at this private camp, but went ahead with the decision to not grant the permit. The denial of the permit is based strictly on the communities disagreement with the type of religion that is practiced there, which is in direct opposition to the constitutional rights of freedom of assembly and freedom of religion. Plus im sure it violates about a half dozen state or local laws on property rights and ownership. "If you've been following this discussion you would know that it has evolved to the point where we are pondering hypotheticals rather than specific occurances at this camp. If this organization has done nothing illegal and the allegations of pedeophilia are unfounded the permit should remain" Good, Im glad to see that you agree with me. However some of your fellow christians: biblewonk, classygreeneyedblonde and he rides a white horse to name few, believe the town has the right to shut down the retreat based totally on the majority of citizens in the town, disagreeing with the type of religion that is practiced there. That is not Democracy, That is theocracy! Which goes against the core tenets upon which this nation was founded.
473 posted on 11/29/2001 7:31:25 AM PST by All-American Medic
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To: All-American Medic
Without evidence or due process, the camp should remain open. The town board in this case even stated there was no evidence of any illegal activity at this private camp, but went ahead with the decision to not grant the permit.

I'm not sure why a land-use permit was required for the camp or what stipulations were placed on granting it but whatever they were doing required a permit it was not by right and the Town Board may very well have the rightful authority to revoke it. The town is being sued and a court will decide

The denial of the permit is based strictly on the communities disagreement with the type of religion that is practiced there,

No there were allegations of crime and unsavory behavior, too. Officials say there was no evidence of crime but that doesn't mean bad things weren't happening. The revoking of a permit is not the same as a criminal prosecution and standards of evidence are not the same. Nobody is being threatend with jail. All that's being said is that what we had allowed you to do earlier you are no longer allowed to do. The camp is claiming a violation of religious freedom and a court will decide the matter.

474 posted on 11/29/2001 7:44:37 AM PST by Tribune7
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