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To: Liberty Ship
That being said, since the ONLY time you can use a firearm in self defense is if you truly believe your live is threatened

Why do people commit suicide?

Nor would I recommend any alternative for someone, particularly a woman, where the disparity of force

Imagine an elderly woman sustaining the kick of most weapons let alone hitting a target. I'd never deprive many from the opportunity to do as they choose to with guns in protecting themselves (police, veterans, security...), they are trained to react, but simply putting a lethal weapon in the hands of the average person is not a cure-all.

We cannot allow government to ban weapons for obvious reasons, but people must understand real limitations as well.

103 posted on 11/27/2001 1:12:07 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don't understand your comment about suicide.

Regarding an "elderly woman" not being able to handle the recoil of a self-defense handgun such as a .38 Special, I have trained elderly women and have not found this to be the case. Certainly, it is less punishing than being bludgeoned and raped! Regarding their marksmanship, such encounters normally happen within 10 feet, so that is not really a problem. If you will look back, all my comments were framed in the context of "sufficient training."

It is critical to understand the issue of "disparity of force" in this context. In a confrontation where both are unarmed and the male has the intent to kill and/or rape, a 110 pound woman has a 90% chance of suffering death or great bodily harm when confronting a 220 pound man. If she has a firearm, that drops to about 5%. Even if they both have a firearm, she at least has a 50/50 chance -- higher if she can position herself and he agresses upon her position. Would you want your mother, sister, or daughter to have the option of using a firearm or not?

Regarding the police, etc., that's interesting. They really are not armed for "self protection," per se. and their rules of engagement are very different from the elderly lady. They may be required to struggle with a perp rather than just drawing down on him, or there might be situations where they are legally and civilly required to shoot, which is never the case with a civilian. Besides, here in the South, the police and security people are usually held to a much lower standard of training than the rest of us hold ourselves to!!!

By the way, I like your name -- "From this day on, I own my father's gun..."

127 posted on 11/27/2001 3:39:27 PM PST by Liberty Ship
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