Mossberg
Posted on 11/27/2001 8:59:52 AM PST by Gritty
While the 410 is not a barn burner, you wouldn't want to get shot with it. It has roughly the power of a .41 magnum from a 4 inch barrel. Mossberg has a home security model, HS410, that could be usefull for someone not able to use a handgun or a stouter shotgun.
Actually, I agree with you. In the typical close range home defense situation, you would definitely want something with some spread - primarily to account for the fact that you'll be so scared, and shaking so badly, there's still a good chance you won't hit them, even with the spread. When I mentioned the slugs, I was kind of joking, and kind of thinking of the absolute worst case scenario, when the bad guys are coming at you in bullet proof vests or (lightly) armored vehicles, in which case the slug will give you some leverage. I didn't want to say "bullet proof vest," however, for fear of being labeled a cop killer. Also, Ms. Maravillosa asks
Look down deep into your soul: do you know, to the marrow of your bones, that if some bad guy came after you or your family, you'd be able to shoot him or her? Repeatedly, if necessary?In this case, if you hit the bad guy in the torso with something like the F131RS, there ain't gonna be no repeatedly, cause there ain't gonna be any torso left.
Ahhh, yes I can see it now. A school bus buried twenty feet deep. Surrounded by stacks of milk crates that are filled with concrete to create a 20 concrete wall. It is entered by shimmying down a false pipe under a fake Toilet.
In the cab of the bus is a large screen TV with the Dish network NFL, NCAA basketball, MLB package. As well as a library of tapes of all the old Twenty minute workout episodes.
Oh dang, now I gave away my plans for my property in Eastern Washington.
No I don't need food, as I can live off the prairie dogs I shoot.
It's light, easier to maneuver with because it's much shorter without the stock, especially around the house, and especially if you live in a small house with tight spaces and corners.
Regards. SOT
The freezer is full of salmon, halibut, and moose. I'm still looking for a bear to join the rest of the frozen goodies. Other than that you are pretty much spot on.
Roger that. I am not a Southpaw but I can fire the shotgun left handed and still sort of hit my target. I figure that after the nine 00 Buckshot rounds from the magazine and the six from the speed feed stock there should not be a whole lot left to be shot at with the sidearms. but hey one never knows.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
To be direct and to the point, these will be engraved to read, "All your Taliban are belong to us!", and at only $280, how could you ever go wrong!
These are 18" 12guage shotguns, with an 8-shot tube. Since there is a run on these nationwide, I really don't know how many we'll be able to get our hands on, so you would be wise to order as soon as possible. The specific engraving just seemed all too appropriate!
I have no idea if this is a good price but most of their items for sale are at about a 25% discount before FFL xfer fees.
They are offering a Springfield Armory 1911 that is a good price and they have a deal with Heinie to put his sights on at a cut rate as well.
Unless you are well trained and practice at least monthly do not go with any weapon other than a revolver. They are the essence of point and click simplicity. With an auto you have to think about too many things (is there a round in the chamber...is the safety off?) Get the revolver that fits your hand but do NOT go smaller than .38. S&W makes a number of nifty small frame five or six shot .38s. They are all reliable and accurate to 15 yds. (The average encounter takes place within seven yds.) NYPD used a .38 Colt with ball ammo for over a century and NEVER had a malfunction. Go with pre-fragmented hollow-points using a low load. They pack a punch and you won't have through-and-through issues.
If you are a big person and get the training then think about the M1911 .45. Almost any variation from a reputable mfg is good, but costly. Even then there are recoil, stovepipe and over-power issues.
Ignore anyone who praises riot or trench guns. I have never heard of any instructor or experienced officer who opted for any shotgun as his first choice. They are two-hand weapons...not a good idea in the dark, coming down a narrow stairway or turning a corner. Leave them to the SWAT teams. Besides, where in the bedroom or the car or your bag are you going to keep a shotgun?
Ignore anyone who tells you that a .22, .25 or .32 is acceptable. I personally know one dude who got shot SEVEN times with a .25. His street name is Champ and he's still around.
Ignore anyone who tells you to aim for a head shot. You're not a Mafia hitman. No professional will ever train you for this. Just take a look at qualifying targets...no points for a head shot. Two quick ones to the center of the torso ends all arguments.
Whatever you do get, keep it clean, learn how to use it, stay practiced, and pray you never have to use it.....good luck and God bless.
I have the Mossberg 6-shot pistol grip version.I have that one also. It looks ugly as sin, but gets the job done. It has as short a barrel as allowed by law (18.5"). The stock/handle are easily interchanged, as are the barrels. I'm getting a regular stock and longer barrel for it so I can use it in polite company. Six shells should handle most situations; if not, it's quick to throw more up the tubular magazine.
Since there seem to be a lot of readers from NY State where I live, it is important for all you Empire Staters to know that in our state, we can't even touch (much less test fire) a handgun without a pistol permit. Getting a pistol permit approved in NY is a six-month process with lots of red tape assuming no red flags pop up. So if you want to get something before then, it has to be a shotgun or rifle.
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