This thread should have ended after post #1, Mr Ron, Mr Paul, or whatever your name. The answer is a big YES. Absolute freedom is exchanged for security, and you Libertarians ought to know that better than anyone (or is this question really a bait?) You want security, any level at all, you get yourself a gubmint. I love anarchy and all (in theory of course) but we do exchange freedom for security, with or without military tribunals. Geez!
Not. Security can't be provided. Thus such an arrangement is fraud.
Since you are obviously unfamiliar with any such quote, I'll tell you who said it. A very foolish, half-witted man (I'm sure you'll agree) by the name of Benjamin Franklin.