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To: Zviadist
The biggest problem with these new law enforcement powers is that they bear little relationship to fighting terrorism.

Yep.

People, the Great American Experiment, started 225 years ago, is basically over. It was a failure because succeeding generations simply were not of the caliber, morally or intellectually, that those who founded this country were.

The only real question in my mind is "how much is it going to hurt when it all comes crashing down?" Or, perhaps more accurately, "what will it be like to live in a total police state?"

We're well on the way to finding out, and there really is no stopping it at this point. The election of "conservative" Dubya has, in fact, sped up the train. It's a pity, but truth is simply truth.

106 posted on 11/27/2001 1:43:40 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
The election of "conservative" Dubya has, in fact, sped up the train. It's a pity, but truth is simply truth.

We tried to tell republican voters that this was the case back in 2000. There was no hearing it. It's not that we LIKE to be right about this kind of thing.

110 posted on 11/27/2001 1:46:25 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Jefferson Adams
The only real question in my mind is "how much is it going to hurt when it all comes crashing down?"

The truly scary part is that this is happening at the same time as the economy is headed toward some of the most troubling times since the Great Depression. A police state and extreme economic hardship seem to be converging in the near future. I am expecting much pain in the next several years.

126 posted on 11/27/2001 2:30:02 PM PST by getsoutalive
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