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Ron Paul: Can Freedom be Exchanged for Security?
Ron Paul ^ | 26 November 2001 | Hon. Ron Paul, M.D.

Posted on 11/27/2001 6:58:59 AM PST by Zviadist

It's easy for elected officials in Washington to tell the American people that the government will do whatever it takes to defeat terrorism. Such assurances inevitably are followed by proposals either to restrict the constitutional liberties of the American people or spend vast sums from the federal treasury. The history of the 20th century shows that the Constitution is violated most often by Congress during times of crisis; accordingly, most of our worst unconstitutional agencies and programs began during the two world wars and the Depression.

Ironically, the Constitution itself was conceived in a time of great crisis. The founders intended its provision to place inviolable restrictions on what the federal government could do even in times of great distress. America must guard against current calls for government to violate the Constitution- break the law- in the name of law enforcement.

The"anti-terrorism" legislation recently passed by Congress demonstrates how well-meaning politicians make shortsighted mistakes in a rush to respond to a crisis. Most of its provisions were never carefully studied by Congress, nor was sufficient time taken to debate the bill despite its importance. No testimony was heard from privacy experts or others from fields outside of law enforcement. Normal congressional committee and hearing processes were suspended. In fact, the final version of the bill was not made available to members before the vote! These political games should not be tolerated by the American public, especially when precious freedoms are at stake.

Almost all of the new laws focus on American citizens rather than potential foreign terrorists. For example, the definition of "terrorism" for federal criminal purposes has been greatly expanded; you now may be considered a terrorist if you belong to a pro-constitution group, a citizens militia, or various pro-life organizations. Legitimate protest against the government could place you (and tens of thousands of other Americans) under federal surveillance. Similarly, your internet use can be monitored without your knowledge, and your internet provider can be forced to hand over user information to law enforcement without a warrant or subpoena.

The bill also greatly expands the use of traditional surveillance tools, including wiretaps, search warrants, and subpoenas. Probable cause standards for these tools are relaxed or even eliminated in some circumstances; warrants become easier to obtain and can be executed without your knowledge; and wiretaps can be placed on you without a court order. In fact, the FBI and CIA now can tap phones or computers nationwide without even demonstrating that a particular phone or computer is being used by a criminal suspect.

The biggest problem with these new law enforcement powers is that they bear little relationship to fighting terrorism. Surveillance powers are greatly expanded, while checks and balances on government are greatly reduced. Most of the provisions have been sought after by domestic law enforcement agencies for years, not to fight terrorism, but rather to increase their police power over the American people. There is no evidence that our previously-held civil liberties posed a barrier to the effective tracking or prosecution of terrorists. The federal government has made no showing that it failed to detect or prevent the recent terrorist strikes because of the civil liberties that will be compromised by this new legislation.

In his speech to the joint session of Congress following the September 11th attacks, President Bush reminded all of us that the United States outlasted and defeated Soviet totalitarianism in the last century. The numerous internal problems in the former Soviet Union- its centralized economic planning and lack of free markets, its repression of human liberty, its excessive militarization- all led to its inevitable collapse. We must be vigilant to resist the rush toward ever-increasing state control of our society, so that our own government does not become a greater threat to our freedoms than any foreign terrorist.


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These political games should not be tolerated by the American public, especially when precious freedoms are at stake.

Oh, but Congressman, the American people are sheep, just waiting for big daddy government to come and make it all better. Oh please help me...

1 posted on 11/27/2001 6:58:59 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: tex-oma
Can you do a "Ron Paul" bump?
2 posted on 11/27/2001 6:59:42 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
ron paul bump!
3 posted on 11/27/2001 7:01:59 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Zviadist
A Libertopian Lunatic bump for Ron Paul.
4 posted on 11/27/2001 7:05:07 AM PST by scottiewottie
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To: Zviadist
BUMP.......He's quite a Man, maybe we can Clone him! ;-)
5 posted on 11/27/2001 7:08:06 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: *Ron Paul List
Bump
6 posted on 11/27/2001 7:13:24 AM PST by madfly
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To: Zviadist
Ron Paul is a man of courage and principle. I am alarmed at how the Federal Gov. is cracking down on the man in the street. All these new laws and powers aren't going to help. They had all the assets to get these terrorists before 9/11 if they had the will or were capable of using them.
7 posted on 11/27/2001 7:14:39 AM PST by Barry Goldwater
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To: horsewhispersc
An intellectual capital clone bump:

We must be vigilant to resist the rush toward ever-increasing state control of our society, so that our own government does not become a greater threat to our freedoms than any foreign terrorist.

8 posted on 11/27/2001 7:23:38 AM PST by scottiewottie
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To: Zviadist; tex-oma; LaBelleDameSansMerci; CommiesOut
Dear Mr Zviadist,

When I am next in the States and arrested as a freigner for an undisclosed reason without charge and without recourse to law and have to look forward to spending my 85th birthday in a prison in an undisclosed location, would you be so kind to send Mr Paul a message saying that there surely must have been some mistake? Many thanks in advance for all your help,

Yours sincerely,

NewAmsterdam

9 posted on 11/27/2001 7:24:54 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: NewAmsterdam

The federal government has made no showing that it failed to detect or prevent the recent terrorist strikes because of the civil liberties that will be compromised by this new legislation.

Well at least someone in government is speaking against the Sovietization of our society.

10 posted on 11/27/2001 7:27:15 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: NewAmsterdam

look forward to spending my 85th birthday in a prison in an undisclosed location,

You are auslander? Without papers in order? No prison for you!!! No 85 years old!!! Nein! You will be executed! (After secret trial, of course! -- we are still a democratic people's republic!!!)

11 posted on 11/27/2001 7:30:43 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
He certainly deserves credit for that. All this extra surveillance will only lead to paranoia and corruption, for that matter. What if you are an average-paid FBI fellow who gathers some very sensitive, say, financial information whilst working on an unrelated case? Could be worthwhile to sell it on to someone who may benefit from the info? And no record of the guy spying on that particular suspect because it wasn't necessary to get independent confirmation of the need for the intrusion.
12 posted on 11/27/2001 7:33:55 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: scottiewottie
Thanks, I am concerned and I pray for those in congress that they are touched when he speaks for if they are then they are righteous men and women. I care not what party affiliation they have, I care that they love this great nation and what it stands for.
13 posted on 11/27/2001 7:35:40 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: Zviadist
But, but, but, but, but, I have passport! I only business do here! Not terrorist me! Papers in order, only little filthy from travel!
14 posted on 11/27/2001 7:35:56 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: Zviadist
Eighty years ago when fast automobiles became available a new type of criminal showed up in the United States.

At that time all law enforcement was local. There was no FBI. But someone could kill a person on one state and escape to another and be free.

Killing someone like Ron Paul was a piece of cake. Kill him in his home state and escape to another was all that it took. Then the FBI was created and crossing state lines to avoid prosecution became a federal crime. The traveling gangs of criminals were stopped. But the Ron Paul types back then were as opposed to the formation of federal officers as the Ron Paul types are today. Partially to appease them they did not call them federal police or federal sheriffs. They called them investigators. The Federal Bureau of Invesigation was the name.

But largely at the loss of the right to be killed and your killer get away with it, the FBI was formed.

I wonder how many of the passengers in those 4 hi jacked planes said as the planes crashed,

"Thank you Ron Paul for keeping the Federal Government from protecting me. The right to die at the hands of terrorists is a freedom I will truly cherish for the final seconds of my life."


15 posted on 11/27/2001 7:40:22 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
I didn't see the part of the article where Mr. Paul called for the abolition of the FBI; perhaps you can point it out to me.

What in blazes is so unreasonable about expecting our elected representatives to read legislation before they vote on it? That's what we pay them for!

Just curious: do you really believe that the so-called "Patriot" Act would have prevented 9/11? How?

16 posted on 11/27/2001 7:48:41 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: Common Tator; Zviadist; tex-oma; LaBelleDameSansMerci; CommiesOut
You are employing false rethoric. The central point Ron Paul seems to make is that your government has not proved that the murders of September could have been prevented if only the various agencies had had the extended powers now given to them. In other words, the existing laws are sufficient to prevent terrorism whenever probable suspicion exists. There is no legal loophole here of the kind which allowed murderers in the past to escape prosecution. And, thus, there is up till now no reason to change the law this dramatically.
17 posted on 11/27/2001 7:49:19 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: NewAmsterdam

, I have passport! I only business do here! Not terrorist me! Papers in order, only little filthy from travel!

Tell it to the tribunal!!!

18 posted on 11/27/2001 7:53:01 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Barry Goldwater
"I am alarmed at how the Federal Gov. is cracking down on the man in the street."

It was bound to happen. The "man in the street" is the last line of defense against complete government control. Uncle Sam sees him as an enemy that must be eliminated.

20 posted on 11/27/2001 8:03:16 AM PST by sheltonmac
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