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To: Demidog; LSJohn; zog
All solutions are deeply rooted in leftist ideology couched in conservative rhetoric.

Ah. Just more "rhetoric over reality," huh DD? I suppose you're right. But when you boil it all down, a man can't live on rhetoric. Maybe it's too late and we have lost our American civilization. I don't know about that; I do know many today -- and I mean middle-of-the-road types here, not "Lefties" -- don't appreciate its values and virtues as much as necessary in order to keep it alive and well. Many just sort of take a whole lot for granted; as if a just public order is some kind of spontaneous natural growth that no one has to work at. That's the death of liberty right there.

The Framers knew there were two indispensable things for the maintenance of a system of ordered liberty: Virtue and vigilence. History tells us that civilizations rise on virtue and fall when a people lose their virtue. Our "American problem" is fundamentally a moral problem -- Specifically, a moral relativism problem, IMHO. And it infects both Left and Right.

But no man knows the future for a certainty, DD. So we'll just have to wait and see what "develops." Thank you for writing. best, bb.

12 posted on 11/27/2001 1:13:35 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
""The Framers knew there were two indispensable things for the maintenance of a system of ordered liberty: Virtue and vigilence. History tells us that civilizations rise on virtue and fall when a people lose their virtue. Our "American problem" is fundamentally a moral problem -- Specifically, a moral relativism problem, IMHO. And it infects both Left and Right."

Needed repeating.............

redrock--Constitutional Terrorist

33 posted on 11/29/2001 9:48:55 PM PST by redrock
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