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To: CCWoody
The theme of this is the same if you read as a Christan, Muslim, Or Hindu. (Have nothing to do with the unbelivers) Seems to me that is what caused the events of 09/11/01. Intolerance of anothers faith is to blame for more death and destruction than anything else in history.
35 posted on 11/25/2001 5:03:34 PM PST by vladog
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To: vladog
I agree. Too many wars have been fought over who has the best imaginary friend. But what do I know? I am just a clown.
37 posted on 11/25/2001 5:08:39 PM PST by JoJo the Clown
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To: vladog; Jerry_M; BibChr; rwfromkansas; RnMomof7; the_doc; Uriel1975; Mark17; winslow
The theme of this is the same if you read as a Christan, Muslim, Or Hindu. (Have nothing to do with the unbelivers) Seems to me that is what caused the events of 09/11/01. Intolerance of anothers faith is to blame for more death and destruction than anything else in history.

So it is the fault of the saints that 7000 people died! Your the one who is proclaiming the kind of intolerant hatred that we saw on 9/11. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil.

39 posted on 11/25/2001 5:25:39 PM PST by CCWoody
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To: vladog
"Seems to me that is what caused the events of 09/11/01. Intolerance of anothers faith is to blame for more death and destruction than anything else in history."

While it is true that wars have been fought over religion, and to passive modern secular relativists such conviction seems incomprehensible (reminds me of how some consider the Marines to be "fanatics"--such devotion to duty and willingness to fight, bleed and die for something beyond themselves is utterly foreign to the garden variety miserable wretch that knows nothing more profound than satisfying their own immediate desires and selfish wants).

However, it is completely false to state that "intolerance of anothers [sic] faith is to blame for more death and destruction than anything else in history."

Not even close. But facts typically (and sadly) give way to the "just so" statements that "everyone" knows to be true but never document, as an Orwellian "group-think" substitutes the time and rigor to actually research and think before they speak (or write, as the case may be). As Oscare Wilde aptly expressed it, if you can't beat someone legitimately in an argument, simply call them names. This typically finds its expression in modern-day post-Christian America as being called a "Nazi," "a Joe McCarthy," that most terrible things, a "Rush Limbaugh 'fan'," and of course, "hate-filled."

But the facts are that the Christian worldview rejected monarchies, dictatorships and other tyrannical forms of government not only "first" but in reality have a monopoly--monarchies, dictatorships and old-fashioned tyrannies are the norm throughout the world outside of the (now) post-Christian West. Civil rights, women's rights, religious tolerance for those of other faiths, et. al., are all concepts born out of the progessive advancement of the Christian worldview.

It is true that tens of thousands died in the Crusades, and thousands were killed during the "Spanish Inquisition," and 19 were killed as a result of the "Salem Witch Trials," the all-time champ at murdering innocent non-combatants is not religion, but the modern secular state.

The human rights group Freedom House has documented that in the 20th century alone over 119.4 million murders were committed by secular humanist governments outside of warfare in the name of "humanist progress" and "the state." 95.2 million of these deaths were committed in the name of atheistic communist regimes. And these are the numbers that have been compiled--the numbers are still out on such enlightened, "non-religious" paradises as the "People's Republic" of China and North Korea, etc. [See R.J. Rummel, "War Isn't This Century's Biggest Killer," Wall Street Journel (7 July 1986): editorial page].

To equate Charles Spurgeon's call to worship God with purity of Biblical doctrine and to not offer idolatrous false worship from a doctrinal basis with murderous terrorists that do not offer a thoughtful, systematic doctrinal statement and peacefully call persons to faith in Jesus but, in contrast, fly hijacked planes full of civilians into buildings full of multiple thousands of civilians is the worst kind of miserable, sloppy thinking which speaks much more about the person offering the anti-statement than anything about Charles Spurgeon and his sermon.

Essentially, these all-to-common comments are the expression of the anti-historical and those that cannot tolerate a strong doctrinal statement based upon antithesis and truth. So, simply call it, in true non-thinking fashion, "hate" and claim that Spurgeon's cogent call to purity of doctrine in worship is the same as flying a hijacked plane into a building.

54 posted on 11/25/2001 11:23:18 PM PST by EthanNorth
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