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To: CCWoody
No! *No, you! ARF!* Maybe you fail to realize that you are wrong. When a clear Bible passage is presented, then you must change your beliefs to fit what is clear:

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Godspeed; for he that biddeth him Godspeed is a partaker of his evil deeds.

And yet the fact remains that Jesus was numbered among sinners. He received sinners. He ate with them. According to Middle Eastern tradition going back thousands of years, to eat a meal with someone means you accept them as a brother or sister completely and without reservation. In Middle Eastern thought, the meal is a symbol of great intimacy, indicative of a desire to have a friendship.

Jesus went right into the thick of things in order to spread the Good Word (love, repentance, mercy, salvation). He didn't hole up behind locked doors like some gelatinous more-pious-than-thou coward, fervently praying that the little kids outside on the front stoop in the holloween masks will burn in hell.

Clearly Jesus was a better preacher than your xenophobic buddy, Spurgeon.

BTW, Your use of scripture is not impressive and fools no one. Satan is probably one of the best at quoting scripture, as you may or may not personally recall from a little tempting incident out in the desert. Of course he(you?) didn't have a clue about mercy, charity, benevolence.

And so it is with an untroubled heart that I must now say to you, "get thee behind me", Thumpy.

116 posted on 11/28/2001 4:06:16 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: Wm Bach
And yet the fact remains that Jesus was numbered among sinners. He received sinners. He ate with them. According to Middle Eastern tradition going back thousands of years, to eat a meal with someone means you accept them as a brother or sister completely and without reservation. In Middle Eastern thought, the meal is a symbol of great intimacy, indicative of a desire to have a friendship.

Jesus went right into the thick of things in order to spread the Good Word (love, repentance, mercy, salvation). He didn't hole up behind locked doors like some gelatinous more-pious-than-thou coward, fervently praying that the little kids outside on the front stoop in the holloween masks will burn in hell.

Clearly Jesus was a better preacher than your xenophobic buddy, Spurgeon.

Let's take a look at one of the dinners that Jesus had:

And it came to pass, as He went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the Sabbath day, that they watched Him....

And when one of those who sat at meat with Him heard these things, he said unto Him, "Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the Kingdom of God."

Then Jesus said unto him, "A certain man made a great supper and bade many. And he sent his servant at suppertime to say to them that were bidden, `Come, for all things are now ready.' And they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said unto him, `I have bought a piece of ground, and I need to go and see it. I pray thee have me excused.' And another said, `I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to test them. I pray thee have me excused.' And another said, `I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.' So that servant came and showed his lord these things. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, `Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor and the maimed and the halt and the blind.' And the servant said, `Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.' And the lord said unto the servant, `Go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.

For I say unto you that none of those men who were bidden shall taste of my supper.'"

Jesus is specifically telling some of those around him that they will never taste his supper. This is a very funny thing to say to ones brother.

Your attacks are very unChristian. Again I have showed you clear evidence from the scripture that you are not being very thoughtful with the Word of God. You need to reconsider your position.

Oh, and BTW, Spurgeon is not advocating "holin' up". His position is consistent with the Bible; do not even greet one who will not abide in the Doctrine of Christ unless you want to share in his evil. It is the Word of God.

121 posted on 11/28/2001 8:46:14 AM PST by CCWoody
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