His Name - the Mighty God; Why saints cannot be brothers with those who deny Jesus is THE Mighty God

THER TRANSLATIONS of this divine title have been proposed by several very eminent and able scholars. Not that they have any of them been prepared to deny that this translation is after all most accurate; but rather that whilst there are various words in the original, which we render by the common appellation of "GOD," it might be possible so to interpret this as to show more exactly its definite meaning. One writer, for example, thinks the term might be translate! "The Irradiator,"—he who gives light to men. Some think it bears the meaning of "The Illustrious,"—the bright and the shining one. Still there are very few, if any, who are prepared to dispute the fact that our translation is the most faithful that could possibly be given—the mighty God."

The term here used for God, El, is taken from a Hebrew or root, which, as I take it, signifies strength; and perhaps a literal translation even of that title might be, "The Strong one," the strong God. But there is added to this an adjective in the Hebrew, expressive of mightiness, and the two taken together express the omnipotence of Christ, his real deity and his omnipotence, as standing first and foremost among the attributes which the prophet beheld. "The mighty God." I do not propose this morning to enter into any argument in proof of the divinity of Christ, because my text dues not seem to demand it of me. It does not say that Christ shall be "the mighty God,"—that is affirmed in many other places of Sacred writ; but here it says, "He shall be called Wonderful," called "Counsellor," called, "The mighty God;" and I think that therefore I may be excused from entering into any proof of the fact, if I am at least able to establish the truth of that which is here foretold, inasmuch as Christ is indeed called at this day, and shall be called to the end of the world, "the mighty God."

First, this morning, I shall speak for a moment on the folly of those who profess to be his followers, but who do not call him "the mighty God." In the second place I shall try to show how the true believer practically calls Christ "the mighty God," in many of the acts which concern his salvation; and then I shall close by noticing how Jesus Christ has proved himself to be indeed "the mighty God " to us, and in the experience of his church.

I. First let note point out THE FOLLY OF THOSE WHO PROFESS TO BE THE DISCIPLES OF CHRIST, YET DO NOT, AND WILL, NOT, CALL HIM GOD. The question has sometimes been proposed to me, how it is that those of us who hold the divinity of Christ manifest what is called uncharitableness towards those who deny him. We do continually affirm that an error, with regard to the divinity of Christ, is absolutely fatal, and that a man cannot be right in his judgment upon any part of the gospel unless he think rightly of him who is personally the very center of all the purposes of heaven, and the foundation of all the hopes of earth. Nor can we admit of any latitudinarianism here. We extend the right hand of fellowship to all those who love the Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity and truth; but we cannot exchange our Christian greetings with those who deny him to be "very God of very God." And the reason is sometimes asked; for say our opponents, "We are ready to give the right hand of fellowship to you, why don't you do so to us?" Our reply shall be given thus briefly: "You have no right to complain of us, seeing that in this matter we stand on the defensive When you declare yourselves to believe that Christ is not the Son of God, you may not be conscious of it, but you have charged us with one of the blackest sins in the entire cataligue of crime. "The Unitarians must, to be existent, charge the whole of us, who worship Christ, with being idolators. Now idolatry is a sin of the most heinous character; it is not an offense against men it is true, but it is an intolerable offense against the majesty of God. We are ranked by Unitarians, if they be consistent, with the Hottentots. "No," say they, "we believe that you are sincere in your worship." So is the Hottentot; he bows down before his Fetich, his block of wood or stone, and he is an idolator; and although you charge us with bowing before a man, yet we do hold that you have laid at our cool a sin insufferably gross, and we are obliged to repel your accusation with some severity. You have so insulted us by denying the Godhead of Christ, you have charged us with so great a crime, that you cannot expect us to sit coolly down and blandly smile at the imputation. It matters not what a Man worships, if it be not God, he is an idolater. There is no distinction in principle between worship to a god of mud and a god of gold, nay further, there is no distinction between the worship of an onion and the worship of the sun, moon, and stars. These are alike idolatries. And though Christ be confessed by the Socinian to be the best of men, perfection's own self; yet if he be nothing more, the vast mass of the Christian world is deliberately assailed with the impudent accusation of being idolators. Yet those who charge us with idolatry, expect us to receive them with cordial kindness. It is not in flesh and blood for us to do so, if we take the low ground of reason; it is not in grace or truth to do so, if we take the high ground of revelation. As wren, we are willing to shew them respect, we regard them, we pray for them, we have no anger or enmity against them. But when we come to the point of theology, we cannot as we profess to be followers of Christ, tamely see ourselves charged with an offense so dreadful and so heinous as that of idol worship.

I confess I would almost rather be charged with a religion that extenuated murder, than with one that justified idolatry. Murder, great as the offense is, is but the slaying of man; but idolatry is in its essence the killing of God; it is the attempt to thrust the Eternal Jehovah out of his seat, and to foist into his place the work of his own hang, or the creature of my own conceit. Shall a man charge me with being so besotted as to worship a mere many shall he tell me I am so low and groveling in my intellect, that I should stoop down to worship my own fellow—creature? and yet does he expect me after that to receive him as a brother professing the same faith? I cannot understand his presumption. The charge against our sanctity of heart is so tremendous, the accusation is so frightful, that if there have been some severity and bitterness of temper in the controversy, the sin lies upon our opponent, and not on us. For he has charged us with a crime so dreadful, that an upright man must repel it as an insult. But to go further; if Jesus Christ be not a Divine person—if I could once imagine that he was no more than a mere man, I should prefer Mahomet to Christ; and if you ask me why, I think I could clearly prove to demonstration, that Mahomet was a greater prophet than Christ. If Jesus Christ be not the Son of God, coequal, co-eternal with the Father, he so spoke as to induce that belief in the minds of his own disciples, and of his adversaries likewise. Mahomet, with regard to the unity of the Godhead, is so clear and so distinct, that there is no Mahometan to this day, that has ever fallen into idolatry. You will find that throughout the whole of the Mahometan world the cry is still sternly uttered and faithfully believed, "There is but one God, and Mahomet is his prophet." Now, if Christ were but a good man and a prophet, why did he not speak more decisively? Why has he not left on record a war cry for the Christian, which would be as explicit and decisive as that of Mahomet? If Christ did not mean to teach that he himself is God, at least he was not very clear and definite in his denial and he has left his disciples extremely in the dark, the proof whereof is to be found in the fact, that at the present day, nine hundred and ninety-nine out of every thousand of the whole of the professed followers of Christ, do receive him, and bow down before him, as being the very God. And if he it not God, I deny his right to be esteemed as a prophet. If he is not God, he was an impostor, the grandest, the greatest of deceivers that ever existed. This, of course, is no argument to the man who denies the faith, and does not avow himself to be a follower of Christ. But to the man that it Christ's follower, I do hold that the argument is irresistible, that Christ could not have been a good and great prophet, if he were not what ho certainly led us to believe himself to be, the Son of God, who thought it not robbery to be equal with God,—he very God, by whom all things were made, and without whom was not anything made that is made.

I will say yet another thing, which may startle the believer, but which is intended rather to reduce the heterodox doctrine of Christ not being God, to an absurdity, If Christ were not the Son of God, his death, so far from being a satisfaction for sin, was a death most richly and righteously deserved. The Sanhedrim before which He was tried was the recognized and authorised legislature of the country. He was brought before that Sanhedrim, charged with blasphemy, and it was upon that charge that they condemned him to die, because he made himself the Son of God. Now, I do not hesitate honestly to aver, that if I had been called on to plead in that ease, I should have pleaded an avowal, and that moreover, I should have stood up, and said and felt, that I had a clear case before me, which nothing but lying and perjury could ever have put on one side, if Jesus of Nazareth had been charged with having declared himself to be the Son of God. Why, his whole preaching seemed to derive from thence it's unrivalled authority. There was continually in his actions and in his words, a claim to be something more than man ever could lay claim to. And when he was brought before the Sanhedrim, witnesses enough might have been found, to prove that he had made himself the Son of God; if he were not so, his condemnation for blasphemy was the justest sentence that ever was pronounced, and his crucifixion on Calvary, was absolutely the most righteous execution that ever was performed by the hand of the government. It is his being verily God, that frees him from the charge of blasphemy, It is the fact that he is God. and that his Godhead is not to be denied, that makes his death an unrighteous decide at the hand of apostate man, and renders it, as before God, an acceptable sacrifice for the sins of all the people whom he redeemed with his most precious blood But if he be not God, I do repeat, that there is no reason whatever, Why we should have had a New Testament written; for there would be then nothing in the sublime central-fact of that New Testament but the righteous execution of one, who certainly deserved to die.

Do you remember, my dear friends, when the apostle Paul was preaching on the resurrection of the dead, in his letter to the Corinthians, how he uses an ex post facto argument, to shoe, the natural consequences, if it were possible to overturn the truths He says, "If Christ be not risen, then is mar preaching vain,and your faith is also vain, and ye are yet in your sins." Now, I may fairly use the apostle's line of argument in reference to the Godhead and Sonship of Christ, of which his resurrection gave such a palpable demonstration: "If Christ be not the Son of God, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain, and ye are yet in your sins all our visions of heaven are blasted and withered; the brightness of our hope is quenched for ever; that rock on which our trust is built, turns out to be nothing better than mere sand if the divinity of Christ be not proved. All the joy and consolation we ever had in this world, in our belief that his blood was sufficient to atone for sin, has been but a dream of fancy and a "figment of idle brains;" all the communion we have ever had with him has been but an illusion and a trance, and all the hopes we have of beholding his face in glory, and of being satisfied when we awake in his likeness, are but the foulest delusions that ever cheated the hopes of man. Oh, my brethren, and can any of you believe that the blood of all the martyrs has been shed as a witness to a lie? Have all those who have rotted in Roman dungeons, or have been burned at the stake because they witnessed that Christ was God, died in vain? Verily, if Christ be not God, we are of all men the most miserable. To what purpose is the calumny and abuse that we have had to endure day after day; to what purpose are our repentance, our sighs, our tears; to what purpose is our faith; to what purpose have our fears and bodings been supplanted by our hope and confidence; to what purpose our joy and our rejoicing, if Christ be not the Son of God? Will you put yourselves all down for fools; can you imagine that God's Word has misguided you; that prophets and apostles, and martyrs and saints, have all leagued together to lead you into a trap and to delude your souls? God forbid that we should think such a thing. There is no folly in the world that has in it so much as a do it of madness, compared with the folly of denying the divinity of Christ, and then professing to be his followers. No, beloved:

II. This brings me to the second part of the subject: HOW DO WE CALL CHRIST "THE DIGNITY GOD?" Here there is no dispute whatever; I am now about to speak of matters of pure fact. Whether Christ be mighty God or not, it is quite certain that we are in the constant habit of calling him so. Not, I mean, by the mere utterance of the term, but we do so in a stronger way—n fact;—and actions speak louder than words.

Now, beloved, I will soon prove that you and I are in the habit of calling Christ God. And I will prove it first, because it is our delight, and our joy and our privilege to attribute to him the attributes of Deity.

In hours of devout contemplation, how often do we look up to him as being the Eternal Son. You and I sit down in our chambers, and in our house of prayer, and as we muse upon the great covenant of grace, we are in the habit of speaking of our Lord Jesus Christ's everlasting love to his people. This is one of the jewels of our life, one of the ornaments with which we array ourselves as a bride doth. This is a part of the manna that tasteth like wafers made with honey upon which our souls are wont to feed. We speak of God's eternal love, of our names having been inscribed in his eternal book, and of Christ's having borne them from before the foundation of the world upon his breast, as our great high-priest, our remembrancer before the throne of heaven. In so doing, we have virtually called him the mighty God; because none but God could have been from everlasting to everlasting. As often as we profess the doctrine of election, we call Christ the mighty God; as often as me talk of the eternal covenant, ordered in all things and sure, so often do we proclaim him to be God: because we speak of him as an everlasting one, and none could be from everlasting but one who is self-existent, who is God.

Again: how frequently do we repeat over to ourselves that precious verse, "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to-day, and for ever." We are always in the habit of ascribing to him immutability. Some of our choicest hymns are founded on that circumstance, and our richest hopes flow from that attribute. We know that all things will change. We are convinced that we ourselves are mutable as the winds, and as easily moved as the sand by the waves of the sea; but we know that our Redeemer liveth, and we cannot entertain a suspicion of any change in his love, his purpose, or his power How often do we sing:—

Is it not also our joy to believe that wherever two or three are gathered together in Christ's name, there is he in the midst of them? Do we not repeat it in all our prayer-meetings? Perhaps some minister in Australia began the solemnities of public worship this day with the reflection that Jesus Christ was with him, according to his promise, and I know that as I came here the same reflection comforted me, "Yea, I am with you always even to the end of the world,"—That wherever a Christian is found, there God is. And though there be but two or three met in a barn, or on the greensward under the canopy of God's blue sky, yet there Christ vouchsafes his presence. Now I ask you, have we not ascribed to Christ, omnipresence; and who can be omnipotent but God? Have we not thus in feet then, though not in words, called Christ "God?" How is it possible for us to dream of Him as being here, and there, and everywhere; in the bosom of his Father, with the angels, and in the hearts of the contrite all at the same time, if he be not God? Grant me that he is omnipresent, and you have said that he is God, for none but God can be present everywhere. Again, are we not also wont to ascribe to Christ omnisience? You believe when your heart is aching that Christ knows your pains, and that he reckons every groan; or at least if you do not believe it, it is always my satisfaction to know that—

I shall not stop to descant upon the other attributes, but I think we might prove that we have each of us ascribed to Christ all the attributes of the Godhead in our daily life and in our constant trust and intercession. I am sure that it is true of many loving hearts of God's own children here. We have called him the mighty God, and it others have not called him so, nevertheless the text is verified by our faith. "He shall be called wonderful, counsellor, the mighty God." So he is, and so he shall be, world without end.

And now I have another proof to offer, that Christ is called "the mighty God." We call him so in many of his offices. We believe this morning that Christ is the mediator between God and man If we would understand the term mediator or daysman, we must interpret it as Job did; one "that might lay his hand upon us both." We are accustomed to say that Jesus Christ is the mediator of the new covenant, and we offer our prayers to God through him, because we believe that he mediates between us and the Father. Let it once be granted then that Christ is the mediator, and you have asserted his divinity. You have virtually called him the Son of God; and you have granted his humanity, for he must put his hand upon both; therefore he must put his hand upon man in our nature, he must be touched with a feeling of our infirmities, and be in all points like as we are. But he is not a mediator unless he can put his hand upon God, unless as fellow of the Eternal One he shall be able without blasphemy to place his hand upon the divine Being. There is no mediatorship unless the hand is put on both and who could put his hand on God but God? Can cherubim or seraphim talk of laying their hands on the Divine? Shall they touch the Infinite? "Dark with insufferable light his skirts appear"—then what is He Himself in the glorious Essence of Deity?—an all-devouring and consuming fire. Only God can put his hand on God, and yet Christ hath this high prerogative, for mark, there is no mediatorship established, there cannot be, unless the two are linked. If you wished to build a bridge you might commence on this aide of the river, but if you have not connected it with the other aide, you have not built the bridge. There can be no mediatorship unless the parties are fully linked. The ladder must have its feet on earth but it must reach to heaven, for if there were a single breach we should fall from its summit and perish. There must be entire communication between the two. Do you not see therefore that in calling Christ mediator we have in feet called him the mighty God.

But again, we call Christ our Saviour. Now, have any of you that foolish credulity which would lead you to trust in a man for the everlasting salvation of your soul? If you have, I pity you: your proper place is not in a Protestant assembly, but among the deluded votaries of Rome. If you can commit the keeping of your soul to one like yourself, I must indeed mourn over you, and pray that you may be taught better. But you do trust your salvation to him whom God hath set forth for a propitiation, do you not, O follower of Jesus? Can you not say all your hope is fixed on him, for he is all your salvation and all your desire? Does not your spirit rest on that unbuttressed pillar of his entire satisfaction, his precious death and burial, his glorious resurrection and ascension? Now, observe, you are either resting on man, or else you have declared Christ to be "the mighty God." When I say I put my faith in him, I do most honestly declare that I dare not trust even to him, if I did not believe him to be God. I could not put my trust in any being that was merely, created. God forbid that my folly should ever go to such an extent as that. I would sooner trust myself than trust any other man, and yet I dare not trust myself, for I should be accursed. "Cursed is he that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm. "And would the Socinian have me to believe that I am to preach faith in Christ, and that yet, if my hearers trust Christ, they will be accursed, as they assuredly meat be, if he is nothing but man, for again I repeat it, "cursed is he that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm." You get a blessing by faith in Jesus, but how? Is it not because—"Blessed is he that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the lord is? "Christ is very Jehovah, and therefore the blessing comes to those who trust in him. So, then, as often as ye put your trust in Jesus, for time and eternity, ye have called hind "the mighty God."

This subject is capable of the greatest expansion, and I do believe there is sufficient interest attaching to it to warrant me in keeping you to a late hour this day, but I shall not do so. There has been enough said, I think, to prove at least, that we are in the habit continually of calling Christ "the mighty God."

III. My third proposition is to explain to you now CHRIST HAS PROVED HIMSELF TO US TO BE "THE MIGHTY GOD." And here beloved, without controversy, great is the mystery of Godliness, for the passage from which the text is taken says, "Unto us a child is born." A child! what can that do? A child it totters in its walk, it trembles in its steps—and it is a child newly born. Born! what an infant hanging on its mother's breast, an infant deriving its nourishment from a woman? That! can that work wonders? Yea, saith the prophet, "Unto us a child is born." But then it is added, "Unto us a Son is given." Christ was not only born, but given. As man he is a child born, as God he is the Son given. He emotes down from ml high; he is given by God to become our Redeemer. But here behold the wonder! "His name is name," this child's name, "shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the mighty God." Is this child, then, to us the mighty God? If so, 0 brethren, without controversy, great is the mystery of Godliness indeed! And yet, just let us look, look through the history of the church, and discover whether we have not ample evidence to substantiate it. This child born, this Son given, came into the world to enter into the lists against sin. For thirty years and upwards he had to struggle and wrestle against temptations more numerous and more terrible than man had ever known before. Adam fell when but a woman tempted him; Eve fell when but a serpent offered fruit to her, but Christ, the second Adam, stood invulnerable against all the shafts of Satan though tempted he was in all points, like as we are. Not one arrow out of the quiver of hell was spared; the whole were shot against him. Every arrow was aimed against him with all the might of Satan's are here, and that is no little! And yet, without sin or taint of sin, more then conqueror he stood. Foot to foot with Satan, in the solitude of the wilderness hand to hand with him on the top of the pinnacle of the temple; side by side with him in the midst of a busy crowd—yet ever more than conqueror. He gave him battle wherever the adversary willed to meet him, and at last, when Satan gathered up all his might, and seized the Saviour in the garden of Gethsemne, and crushed him till he sweat as it were greet drops of blood, then when the Saviour said, "Nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt," the tempter was repulsed. "Hence, hence!" Christ seemed to say; and away the tempter fled, nor dare return again. Christ, in all his conquests over sin, does seem to me to have established his Godhead. I never heard of any other creature that could endure such temptation as this. Look at the angels in heaven. How temptation entered there I know not; but this I know, that Satan, the great archangel, sinned, and I know that he became the tempter to the rest of his companions, and drew with him a third part of the stars of heaven. Angels were but little tempted, some of them not tempted at all, and yet they fell. And then look at man; slight was his temptation, yet he fell. It is not in a creature to stand against temptation; he will yield, if the temptation be strong enough. But Christ stood, and it seems to me, that in his standing he proved Himself to have the omni-radient purity, the immaculate holiness of Him before whom angels veil their faces, and cry, "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God of Sabaoth."

But these proofs might appear insufficient, if he did not accomplish more than this. We know also that Christ proved himself to be the "mighty God" from the feet that at last all the sins of all his people were gathered upon his shoulders, and "he bare them in his own body on the tree." The heart of Christ became like a reservoir in the midst of mountains. All the tributary streams of iniquity, and every drop of the sins of his people, ran down and gathered into one vast lake, deep as hell, and shoreless as eternity. All these met, as it were, in Christ's heart, and yet he endured them all. With many a sign of human weakness, but with convincing signs of divine omnipotence, he took all our griefs and carried all our sorrows. The divinity within strengthened his manhood, and though wave after wave rolled over his head, till he sank in deep mire where there was no standing, and all Gods waves and his billows had gone over him, yet did he lift up his he ad, and snore than a conqueror, at length, he put the sins of his people to a public execution. They are dead. They have ceased to be; and, if they be sought for, they shall not be found any more for ever. Certainly if this be true, he is "the mighty God" indeed.

But he did more than this, he descended into the grave, and there he slept, fast fettered with the cold chains of death. But the appointed hour arrives—the sunlight of the third day gave the warning, and he snapped the bands of death as if they were but tow, and came forth to life as "the Lord of life and glory." His flesh did not see corruption, for he was not able to be holden by the bands of death. And who shall be the death of death, the plague of the grave, the destroyer of destruction, but God? Who but immortal life, who but the Self-existent, shall trample out the fires of hell; who, but he whose Being is eternal, without beginning, and without end, shall burst the shackles of the grave? He proved himself then, when he led captivity captive, and crushed death and ground his iron limbs to powder—he proved himself then to be the mighty God.

Oh, my soul, thou canst say, that he has proved himself in thy heart to be a mighty God. Sins, many hath he forgiven thee and relieved thy conscience of the keen sense of guilt, griefs innumerable hath he assuaged, temptations insurmountable hath he overcome; virtues once impossible hath he implanted, grace in its fullness hath he promised, and in its measure hath he given. My soul bears record that what has been done for me could never have been done by a mere man; and you would rise from your seats, I am sure, if it were needful, and say, "Yes, he that hath loved me, washed me from my sins, and made me what I am, must be God, none but God could do what he has done, could bear so patiently, could bless so lavishly, forgive so freely, enrich so infinitely. He is, he must be, we will crown him such—"The mighty God."

And, in conclusion, lest I weary you, permit me now to say, I beg and beseech of you all present, as God the Spirit shall help you, come and put your trust in Jesus Christ, he is "the mighty God." Oh, Christians, believe him more than ever, cast your troubles constantly on him; he is "the mighty God;" go to Him in all your dilemmas, when the enemy cometh in like a flood, this mighty God shall make a way for your deliverance; take to him your griefs, this mighty God can alleviate them all; tell him your backslidings and sins, this mighty God shall blot them out. And, O sinners, ye that feel your need of a Saviour, come to Christ and trust him for he is "the mighty God." Go to your houses, and fall on your knees and confess your sins, and then cast your poor, guilty, helpless, naked, defenceless souls before his omnipotence, for he is able to save unto the uttermost them that come unto God by him, because when he died he was not manhood, without divinity, but he was "the mighty God." This, I say, we will write on our banners, from this day forth and for ever; this shall be our joy and our song—the child bow and the son given is to us "the mighty God."

* The reader is referred to Nos. 214 and 215 of the "New Park Street Pulpit," in which sermons severally entitled "Wonderful," "Counsellor," will be found.

And yet the fact remains that Jesus was numbered among sinners. He received sinners. He ate with them. According to Middle Eastern tradition going back thousands of years, to eat a meal with someone means you accept them as a brother or sister completely and without reservation. In Middle Eastern thought, the meal is a symbol of great intimacy, indicative of a desire to have a friendship.

Jesus went right into the thick of things in order to spread the Good Word (love, repentance, mercy, salvation). He didn't hole up behind locked doors like some gelatinous more-pious-than-thou coward, fervently praying that the little kids outside on the front stoop in the holloween masks will burn in hell.

Clearly Jesus was a better preacher than your xenophobic buddy, Spurgeon.

Let's take a look at one of the dinners that Jesus had:

And it came to pass, as He went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the Sabbath day, that they watched Him....
And when one of those who sat at meat with Him heard these things, he said unto Him, "Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the Kingdom of God."
Then Jesus said unto him, "A certain man made a great supper and bade many. And he sent his servant at suppertime to say to them that were bidden, `Come, for all things are now ready.' And they all with one accord began to make excuses. The first said unto him, `I have bought a piece of ground, and I need to go and see it. I pray thee have me excused.' And another said, `I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to test them. I pray thee have me excused.' And another said, `I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.' So that servant came and showed his lord these things. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, `Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor and the maimed and the halt and the blind.' And the servant said, `Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.' And the lord said unto the servant, `Go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
For I say unto you that none of those men who were bidden shall taste of my supper.'"

Jesus is specifically telling some of those around him that they will never taste his supper. This is a very funny thing to say to ones brother.

Your attacks are very unChristian. Again I have showed you clear evidence from the scripture that you are not being very thoughtful with the Word of God. You need to reconsider your position.

Oh, and BTW, Spurgeon is not advocating "holin' up". His position is consistent with the Bible; do not even greet one who will not abide in the Doctrine of Christ unless you want to share in his evil. It is the Word of God.

Let's take a look at one of the dinners that Jesus had:

Yes, let's.

"And as He sat at table in the house, behold, many tax collectors and sinners came and sat down with Jesus and His disciples. And when the Pharisees saw this, they said to His disciples, 'Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?' But when He heard it, He said, 'Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. God and learn what this means, "I desire mercy and not sacrifice." For I came not to call the righteous, but the sinners.'" (Mt. 9:10-13)

Since this contradicts your slice o' Bible, then either you are merely being your Satanic self in trying to turn Jesus into some kind of xenophobic monster, or the Bible itself is schizophrenic, or lastly, you just don't know any better. It is obvious that Jesus is not attempting to close sinners out. The entire NT is about His going out into the sea of sinners, casting his net and reeling them in, like a good Piscator. Why the hell would God bother incarnating himself in a world of sin at all, when He could have just sat up there, taken your advice, and kept his door closed forever? Your "no sinners allowed" version of Christianity is bizarre, especially if you consider that no man is without sin. In fact, the Church might as well just close up shop, since there's no point in it's existence, by Woody's rules of xenophobia.

Your attacks are very unChristian.

Your Christianity is very unChristian.

Again I have showed you clear evidence from the scripture that you are not being very thoughtful with the Word of God. You need to reconsider your position.

No you didn't, Satan. You're cutting and pasting through a glass darkly. I'll just keep you behind me, rather than reconsider.

Oh, and BTW, Spurgeon is not advocating "holin' up".

True. It's really more your position.

His position is consistent with the Bible; do not even greet one who will not abide in the Doctrine of Christ unless you want to share in his evil. It is the Word of God.

Then you're missing all the important Words, being so obsessed with the verbs and nouns that you've gone and completely missed the Message.

Benedictus

He is my Bright and glorious Morning Star and the only star I seek. - CCWoody.

Your post and comments below again reveal that your position is completely hypocritical. You claim that the Bible is God's word and then claim that it is in error. You are standing in a position of hypocracy. You have no right to quote any scripture to me because you have already claimed it is unrelaible. You cannot even read the Bible plainly and understand it.

Your comments:

You are very lost.
Isa: 14:12-15:
12 How you have fallen from heaven, O STAR of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High."
15 But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.

Quit worshipping at the Throne of Satan. - hogwaller

I will now show you that you are completely reading this passage wrong. How you have fallen from heaven, O STAR of the morning, son of the dawn! If you will look closely, Satan is called the son of the dawn or morning. Thus Satan is the son of the Morning Star. The Bright and glorious Morning Star created Satan, who is the Day Star BTW.

Here is what my Bible says about this particular verse: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! You see, the Morning Star is the Creator of all. You also forgot this Bible passage:

"I, Jesus, have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the Bright and Morning Star."

Jesus Christ is my Bright and glorious Morning Star; He is the Alpha and Omega; THE Mighty God and Creator of All. You deny Him and sin continually. You do not abide in the Doctrine of Christ. It is not I who is lost, but you. Repent or you will perish!

His position is consistent with the Bible; do not even greet one who will not abide in the Doctrine of Christ unless you want to share in his evil. It is the Word of God. - CCWoody

Jesus is God, yes? Jesus said to love God and each other, and to forgive 70 times 7.

YOU are ignoring the Word of God, my poor, benighted friend.

No, I have quoted the Word of God directly. Forgiveness and not exchanging a Christian brotherly greeting are different. The Bible commands both. I understand the context of both. But, I do have a single question. You ended your sentence "Jesus is God" with a question mark. Is Jesus THE Counselor, THE Mighty God, THE Everlasting Father?

You claim that the Bible is God's word and then claim that it is in error. - CCwoody

I never claimed that, as I don't believe it. It has some of God's Words in it, but the Bible, like any work of man, is imperfect. An imperfect work with the seeds of perfection in it, but imperfect nonetheless.

Mere play on words. The fact is that you believe the Bible has errors and is therefore, not the infallible Word of God. You have no right to quote me scripture and expect it to have any Authority. When you do quote scripture, you are acting in a double-minded hypocrital manner for it cannot be both Authoritative and imperfect.

Yes Woody is my brother in Christ..what is your denomation BTW ??

So, he is Nazarene??

I TOLD YOU LAST NIGHT MY DENOMINATION, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN NOR ARE YOU EVEN TODAY TO ANYTHING ANYONE IS SAYING TO YOU.. BUT I WILL REPEAT IT K??

I was born and raised by wonderful Catholics. (Who btw,..do not believe that the Pope can condemn them to hell as you said yesterday!! Nor do they worship the Virgin Mary. They honor her as Christ told us to do when he died on the Cross. "Behold your mother..." I still believe that was meant for all of mankind, I still honor her!!)

Now, I said last night I wouldn't respond to you anymore..and I'm going to do that. I don't know why YOU felt you had to respond to my question to Woody,.. but then again, you respond to every other post all day long!!!!

Mayhap that would be "time" better spent trying to "feel" scripture with your heart,.. "Be in the WORD"..rather than just to your memory so you can "quote" it verbatum without ever really "getting it" IMHO!! (And certainly interpretting it FAR differently than any Christian I care to know).

God Bless you and may he someday reach your heart.

I then went on to tell you that after marrying my husband, I became Protestant. We go to a Presbyterian Church right now. But if they vote for Homosexuals and Singles having sex out of marraige to be able to be ministers,..we will be going to a different Church. It could be Lutheran, it could be Methodist (again based on stands they take regarding the above issue). But it will not be Nazarene or Jehovah Witness. Of that I can assure you!! Now, I said last night I wouldn't respond to you anymore..and I'm going to do that. I don't know why YOU felt you had to respond to my question to Woody,.. but then again, you respond to every other post all day long!!!!

Mary you just spent ton of band width slandering me and then you come here and play the saint...that was posted well before this..

Mary ,Woody is not a Nazarene..he is my brother because he is a born again,believer,a follower of Jesus Christ,saved ,washed in the Blood of the Lamb.....

Mary you need to ask God into your heart...because you are not a Christian. you have combined Catholic error with your own brand of doctrine and come up with something that will not bring you to Christ.

Satan, in the name of Jesus Christ who shed His blood for our sins, I command you leave this woman RNMomof7...
Satan, in the name of Jesus Christ who shed His blood for our sins, I command you leave this woman RNMomof7...
Satan, in the name of Jesus Christ who shed His blood for our sins, I command you leave this woman RNMomof7...

Amen

LOL I didnt know Presbyterians did exorcism....or is that your Catholic personality speaking.....LOL

God bless ya Mary...I know you think you mean well...Please read the gospel of John this week OK?

LOL I didnt know Presbyterians did exorcism....or is that your Catholic personality speaking.....LOL

I didn't know they did either!! Didn't know it was exorcism. I was told once by a Christian that I thought a lot of.. that if I asked in the name of Christ who shed his blood for us, and if I said it to the accursed person three times, that it was a "prayer" for them...and would make SATAN leave them. You see dear.. I honestly think you're dealing with real live demons.

Now,.. I also think "promises" are meant to be kept (says so in the Bible). So I wll not respond to any more of your lunatic behavior until you find the true path to God, I PROMISE!!! I know you will try to "trick" me, and to make me stumble,.. but I won't. I know now who you really are.

Every time I see a post of yours that is so misguided, I will say the above prayer. Every time you insult someone or hurt someone, I may answer them, but not you. I will also repeat that prayer. Why?? Because I say this will all honesty.. after reading how Satan can quote scripture better than anyone.. how he uses it to steer people AWAY from God, I think your are possessed with evil/Satan. Thats my opinion. Your a cruel evil person. I pray for you. From the sounds of things, your childhood was really messed up, but I don't think that's an excuse for what your doing in the name of your god.

My God, and that of any who long to know His Love and His heart.. would open His arms to ALL. But you judge all. Thats wrong, and its not the interpretation of the Bible that I've been taught, not ever!!

He can even change you RNMomof7. But your brand of professed christianity, your horrid judgement of Catholics, and Jews, and Protestents, is deplorable. You are so blinded by evil you cannot even see the hate you spew.

MAY MY GOD,.. WHO IS A LOVING AND ALL KNOWING GOD....BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU, AND I PRAY HE HELPS YOU SEE "HIM" AS HE TRULY IS.. NOT AS SATAN WANTS YOU TO SEE HIM.

Let me know when you find him. Then we'll talk. But not while you do the harm your doing in my Gods name. It, your god, isn't the God I follow. And I thank MY LORD for that!!

As to the Bible.. I read it every day .. not just when it suits me. And no.. I don't even try to take it to memory. I try to live it. Big Difference!!!

<< And now we have Christian fanatics who bomb abortion clinics. These people are not Christian. I am pretty sure the vast majority of those responsible for the Crusades and Inquisition were not true Christians either. Many true Christians were victims of the Inquisition, not the perpetrators of it.>>

Similarly, many are saying that the people responsible for the 9/11 attack are not true Moslems. In both cases, it comes down to semantics, who's defining what makes a "true" Christian or Moslem. The problem is, there's little in either the Bible (especially the Old Testament) or the Koran which would rule out killing large numbers of people in the name of God/Allah.

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