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Bin Laden's private life revealed
Independent.co.uk ^ | 24 November 2001 | Richard Lloyd-Parry

Posted on 11/23/2001 4:28:44 PM PST by Sabertooth

Jalalabad

Osama bin Laden's underpants were hanging up to dry in the bathroom of his house outside Jalalabad. They were striped grey and black cotton boxers, with a label reading Angelo Petrico, a size XXL ? large for such a lean-looking man.

They may, it is true, have belonged to one of his bodyguards, sons or advisers who lived with him in a maze-like compound 20 minutes outside the town ? but I lifted them from the clothes line anyway, a souvenir from a place full of more sinister and deadly objects.

Since the retreat of their Taliban protectors a fortnight ago, fascinating relics of al-Qa'ida's network have been discovered in their former camp and hideout ? exercise books full of scribbled notes on nuclear and chemical materials, weapons manuals and many tons of live explosives. There are items here that tell a more personal story of the private lives of the al-Qa'ida family.

Within the high mud walls of this compound,members of Mr bin Laden's clan lived ? including at least one of his wives and her children. According to the men who now guard it, anti-Taliban mujahedin of Jalalabad's ruling council, Mr bin Laden was seen here a few days before the bombing campaign began on 7 October, when he escorted his wife and household away. He may even have been here on 11 September. Unconfirmed reports from Jalalabad say he was seen in the city as recently as 11 days ago, just 24 hours before the Taliban peacefully pulled out with all their military forces.

But the house in the place known as Ghulam Dog, 20 minutes' drive from the city centre, had intermittently served as one of his bases for years.

Ahmad Shah, the commander whose men guard the house, said: "I saw him myself so often, so what I tell you I witnessed with my own eyes. I first saw him here before the Taliban came. His bodyguards lived here with him ? they slept in the mosque at the front of the house ? and he kept his family here, including his wife. That is why it has so many rooms."

The compound, nicknamed "Families", is about 500 yards by 200 yards, with round turrets at its corners. Inside, it is indeed a warren, a tightly packed arrangement of rooms connected by narrow alleyways. In the outer courtyards is the characteristic jumble of most abandoned al-Qa'ida premises, a mixture of the deadly, decaying and mundane. A pile of desiccated loaves of flat naan bread sits next to the cold ashes of an oven. On the other side are cases of unspent machine-gun ammunition next to a dust-covered ping-pong table.

It was in a house like this, in this area, that an Italian and a Spanish journalist described finding boxes containing bottles of sarin nerve gas, the day before they were ambushed and executed on the road to Kabul.

Through another low door, and down an alley littered with antique seven-inch floppy discs, is a small room covered with books and ironware. There are printed circuit boards; a pile of tubes for photographic film, all empty; screws and hooks; and dozens of books, most in English.

"Operator's manual for: detonating mine, portable, metallic and non-metallic" reads one title, close to books on logarithms and calculus. There is a catalogue of electronic switches published by the Japan Aviation Electronics Industry and an empty box that once contained a kit for building a toy lorry.

The only photographs I have seen of Mr bin Laden's children show them posing with Kalashnikovs, and finding evidence of authentic childishness is unexpected. In the centre of Jalalabad four days ago, I visited a house where two al-Qa'ida commanders lived. Inside were telephone directory-sized books written in Arabic and describing the operation of every kind of infantry weapon.

But far more interesting was the conversation I had with an Afghan boy named Ashok playing outside. He described the five al-Qa'ida children who lived in the house opposite his. "If they went outside the door, they were punished by their father," he said. "And nobody was allowed to talk to the adults, not even a kid. I wanted to talk to the children, but they didn't speak our language and they had furious faces."

Many of the rooms in the bin Laden house are completely bare. On its far side, however, there are items showing these are the women's quarters. There are materials for cooking ? a flat pan for bread and jars of spices and herbs. Here, too, are objects I have found in every one of half a dozen terrorist bases or houses in Jalalabad ? empty tins of Hedge brand tomato paste and packets of macaroni. Osama bin Laden's Arabs had a passion for pasta.

There is an unused hypodermic needle on the floor and a selection of pills and medicine bottles. But now the guards are hurrying us out.

I nip to the last room and there they are, where they must have been hanging for the past fortnight ? baggy, sagging a little in the elastic, but undeniably a collectors' item.

Many before me have seen his guns, his plans and his weaponry, but how many can claim to own the underwear of the world's most wanted man?


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To: Sabertooth
He hasn't been seen wearing a black and white "turbin", has he? After all that poppy smoking, people get a little strange.
41 posted on 11/23/2001 7:24:55 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Sabertooth
I'll take January 8th, Elvis's birthday.
42 posted on 11/23/2001 7:30:05 PM PST by PoisedWoman
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To: Sabertooth
Angelo Petrico, a size XXL ? large for such a lean-looking man.

Does Angelo Petrico make children's underwear? Size XXL toddler? With room for Pampers inside.

43 posted on 11/23/2001 7:33:07 PM PST by PoisedWoman
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To: Sabertooth
Another bump! ;-)
44 posted on 11/23/2001 7:45:19 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Even if I did have Bin Laden's dirty skivvies, I don't think I would want to brag about it.

I guess not! LOL!!!

45 posted on 11/23/2001 7:46:51 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Sabertooth
Do you know how to interrupt a Taliban bingo game?

















B, fifty two . . . . B, FIFTY TWO! . . .


46 posted on 11/23/2001 8:18:07 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: lowbridge
Why am I having a horrible vision of Tim Curry?
This is not good.
47 posted on 11/23/2001 8:30:49 PM PST by pubmom
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To: Sabertooth
ever thought about putting BORDER="0" with your images?

<-----Pretty, yes?

48 posted on 11/23/2001 8:34:30 PM PST by smith288
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To: Sabertooth
"His bodyguards lived here with him. They slept in the mosque.."

That's all I got out of the story.

49 posted on 11/23/2001 10:34:25 PM PST by kingh99
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To: Sabertooth
i've gotta have december 10th.


50 posted on 11/23/2001 10:37:09 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: mdittmar
You can still get in the game!

Osama Paki-pool Update:

November 16: First day of Ramadan!
November 17: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub - Nope.
November 18: OPEN
November 19: OPEN
November 20: OPEN
November 21: OPEN
November 22: Azzurri -- Thanksgiving - Nope.
November 23: Sabertooth - Nope.
November 24: Jefferson Adams - Not looking good.
November 25: Victoria Delsoul
November 26: airborne
November 27: harpseal
November 28: OPEN
November 29: Tunehead54
November 30: Travis McGee

December   1: alancarp
December   2: onyx
December   3: AfghanAirShow
December   4: Straight Vermonter
December   5: Pokey78
December   6: proudofthesouth
December   7: null and void
December   8: MaeWest
December   9: OPEN
December 10: glock rocks
December 11: KayEyeDoubleDee
December 12: Washi
December 13: OPEN
December 14: irish guard
December 15: hattend

Not sure when Ramadan ends, but around here somewhere.
December 16: nunya bidness
December 17: abner
December 18: anniegetyourgun
December 19: OPEN
December 20: OPEN
December 21: OPEN
December 22: OPEN
December 23 OPEN
December 24 RasterMaster
December 25: Go Gordon
December 26: OPEN
December 27: OPEN
December 28: Snow Bunny
December 29: OPEN
December 30: OPEN
December 31: Miss Marple

I really don't think it's going to go this long, but I've had requests for January…

January   1: Freeper 007
January   2: OPEN
January   3: OPEN
January   4: OPEN
January   5: OPEN
January   6: OPEN
January   7: OPEN
January   8: PoisedWoman Elvis' Birthday
January   9: OPEN
January 10: OPEN

All right, here's the up-to-date list for the Osama Paki-Pool. Plenty of open dates, so flag me if you want in.

If you're not sure what this is about, check out this link from a thread posted by Travis McGee on October 25th...

Will Osama Appear In Pakistan?

The operating theory is that Osama bin Laden has had a plan all along to show up in Pakistan, have himself declared the "Imam al-Mahdi" (a long-prophesied Islamic savior-figure), and start a civil war in an attempt to gain control of Pakistan's nukes.

Sounds crazy?

So is he. Crazy evil.

BTW, if he doesn't make it to Pakistan, we'll make this a "brought to justice" pool.


51 posted on 11/24/2001 8:04:39 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: kingh99
That's all I got out of the story.

You didn't read between the stripes on the boxers...

The point of this story was to get the Osama Pool into "Breaking News."

The latest list is in post #51. Care to make a pick?


52 posted on 11/24/2001 8:07:48 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I'm betting on December 26.

He'll be some vulture's Boxing Day leftovers.

53 posted on 11/24/2001 10:33:07 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: Sabertooth
I'll take Dec.20th.

It would be a nice birthday present.

54 posted on 11/24/2001 11:01:05 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: Sabertooth
Toothy;
My B'day is December 13th, so it's mine. If he's a crispy critter on the 13th, I'm buyin'.
55 posted on 11/24/2001 11:31:10 AM PST by FreedomFarmer
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To: Sabertooth
Osama bin Laden's underpants were hanging up to dry in the bathroom of his house outside Jalalabad. They were striped grey and black cotton boxers, with a label reading Angelo Petrico, a size XXL ? large for such a lean-looking man. They may, it is true, have belonged to one of his bodyguards, sons or advisers who lived with him in a maze-like compound 20 minutes outside the town ? but I lifted them from the clothes line anyway, a souvenir from a place full of more sinister and deadly objects.
Kind of brings a whole new meaning to the phrase losing your shorts, huh? Literally. . .
Guess who?? (Add me to ping list when you figure it out)
56 posted on 11/27/2001 11:46:00 AM PST by RMeek
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To: Sabertooth
At this rate, we'll be seeing Osama's life story on A&E's Biography and Lauer's Headliners and Legends soon. Hopefully it will be posthumous.
57 posted on 11/27/2001 11:55:27 AM PST by TADSLOS
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