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To: freefly
What liberal turnip truck did you just fall off of? Innocent Afghan citizens? Please spare me. Innocent they might be, but they are now caught in a war, in case you missed the news since 9/11. Flash: people die in wars. If you don't want a war, don't fly your planes into our buildings. As of 9/11, this country had done nothing to provoke the terrorists, except, of course, for just being here in the first place. Well, Afghanistan has harbored these thugs for years, and now they're paying the price. Although, in all truth, fewer Afghan civilians are dying than European civilians in WWII.
305 posted on 11/25/2001 6:13:31 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
"What liberal turnip truck did you just fall off of?"

I believe in questioning government actions and pointing out when the consequences of those actions start showing up.
Letting your government run wild without questioning it is what the liberals like to do (when it comes to domestic social programs).
And what all too many conservatives like to do when it comes to international affairs.
Both big-government liberals and big-government conservatives ride around on that big government turnip truck.
I don't ride around on it at all.
Enjoy your company?

"Innocent Afghan citizens?"

Yes.

"Please spare me."

You were.

"Innocent they might be, but they are now caught in a war,"

Sound familiar? It should.
It's what happened to the civilians that were at ground zero on 9/11.

"Flash: people die in wars."

Good reason to at least TRY to avoid them.

"If you don't want a war, don't fly your planes into our buildings."

Good advice, but I have news for you: they didn't. None of the hijackers were Afghans.
FYI: the Afghan people are being "ruled" by a group of religious fanatics that the CIA
brought to that country and turned loose after using them as cannon fodder to fight the Soviets.
If we hadn't done that, then the Taliban wouldn't have gotten into power in the 1st place.

"As of 9/11, this country had done nothing to provoke the terrorists,"

The 60+ KNOWN CIA political assassinations around the world could EASILY be considered provocation.
As with the crap that clinton pulled (or have you already forgotten the "asprin factory" to name just ONE thing?).
We don't even need to get into our poking around with the Arab countries over the last 4 decades. Not to mention Israel.
As I said, right or wrong, there are PLENTY of things that our country has done that
COULD be considered provocation by people that DID use them to justify 9/11.
There are plenty of additional examples out there. Go educate yourself.
(But only if you have the guts to challenge what you currently believe.)

"Well, Afghanistan has harbored these thugs for years, and now they're paying the price."

They "harbored" them because we kept sending those thugs money and food that they used to keep themselves in power.
And yes, they ARE paying the price.
As have we.

"Although, in all truth, fewer Afghan civilians are dying than European civilians in WWII."

True. But killing lot more civilians in past wars doesn't justify killing fewer now.

You've done a good job of showing that (at least with this issue) you really have no interest in facts, your mind is made up.
You've also done a good job of ignoring the fact that you use the same justification for your attitude toward killing civilians as the terrorists did.
As I said earlier, hating everyone for the actions of a few LEADS to what we saw here.
Instead of taking it to those responsible, the terrorists used a shotgun approach and didn't care about the collateral damage.
You seem to want to make the same mistake and then get indignant about the consequences...
just like the liberal socialists that like to think effects are not connected to causes.
Keep in mind, that will insure that this "war on terrorism" will never end, (just like our other "wars on -------").
Of course, governments LOVE problems that justify their intervention into the affairs of their citizens.
(Big never-ending problems are justification for big-govenrment socialism,
along with the high taxes and job security and elite power that go along with it.)
They also love the blind cheerleaders that allow them to get away with it.
306 posted on 11/25/2001 8:03:26 AM PST by freefly
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