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Mexicans Told Immigration Reform Is Dead for Now Because of Terrorism Concerns
AP ^ | 11/20 07:00 pm EDT | George Gedda

Posted on 11/20/2001 4:17:34 PM PST by flamefront



Published: Nov 20, 2001

WASHINGTON (AP) - A comprehensive immigration agreement between Mexico and the United States will have to be deferred because of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, administration officials said Tuesday.

The officials, asking not to be identified, said they notified a visiting Mexican delegation that security concerns will have to take a higher priority in cross-border relations.

They said the Mexicans understood and accepted the U.S. decision.

Mexican President Vicente Fox has been a harsh critic of the current system, in which Mexican migrants who come to the United States are unable to escape their illegal status.

President Bush seemed to agree. During Fox's Sept. 5 visit here, he and Bush committed themselves to an approach that respects "the human dignity of all migrants," regardless of their legal status.

But the U.S. officials said that too many members of Congress believe that any measure that legalizes undocumented aliens would increase U.S. vulnerability to a terrorist attack.

Since Sept. 11, the administration has been making it more difficult for foreigners to enter the country. For Mexicans, this has meant more stringent searches at border crossings.

Visa processes for young men from Arab and Muslim nations have also been delayed to give officials more time to search for evidence of terrorist activities.

Immigration reform has be a high priority for Fox since he took office a year ago. When he met with Bush, Fox challenged him to reach an agreement by the end of the year.

Bush did not embrace the timetable but agreed that a legalization process - short of blanket amnesty - was called for, given the contributions Mexican workers have made to the U.S. economy.

The U.S. and Mexican delegations met for several hours Tuesday at the State Department. The American delegation, led by Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Mary Ryan, also included Justice and Labor Department officials and immigration officials.

Mexico's delegation was led by Gustavo Mohar, a migration expert at Mexico's Secretariat for External Relations; and Rodolfo Tuiran, who heads Mexico's National Council on Population.

Another meeting will probably be held sometime in January. The officials said the U.S. side wants to keep options open in case political conditions change.

On Monday, a Mexican delegation met with Tom Ridge, the director of homeland security, and other officials to discuss border issues.

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To: flamefront
From Expose link.....

FAIR Action Alert
September 7, 2001
Section 245(i) Passed in Senate--House Will Vote Early Next Week

At the request of President Bush, the Senate passed S. 778, the Section 245(i) extension bill by unanimous consent on Thursday night. Section 245(i) permits illegal aliens who have established an employment or familial relationship while in the U.S. illegally to adjust their status with the INS after payment of a $1,000 fee. It also allows illegal aliens to avoid the State Department background checks for other immigrants coming from overseas.

21 posted on 11/20/2001 5:08:08 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: ken21
San Diego (like most of California) will just have to make do. I don't care how much money is involved, and who loses out, including myself. Our borders should be concrete walls and razor wire.

I, for one, am sick of our contry being a doormat for socialist causes. Screw the migrants, seal the borders, and deport all illegal aliens. Economic consequences be damned.

Xenophobe? OK with me. Homophobe, too. :)

22 posted on 11/20/2001 5:08:49 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: MonroeDNA
DITTO.
23 posted on 11/20/2001 5:16:24 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: kstewskis
what the heck does Mexico have over the US, and the border state governors?? I swear I must be missing something...

Somebody gets a kick (back) from cocaine...

24 posted on 11/20/2001 5:17:26 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: MonroeDNA
Seems more like you are a patriotic american to me.
25 posted on 11/20/2001 5:17:31 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: MonroeDNA
Personaly I'm sick and tired of these mexicans that come over here with their hand out, wnating a hand out from our government, inlcuding free schooling and medical for their little brats! MY husband and I are moving out of California, mainly just to get away from those people, they're everywhere! I say adios!
26 posted on 11/20/2001 5:17:39 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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To: MonroeDNA
Our borders should be concrete walls and razor wire.

And Marines machine guns - you forgot the machine guns. Being a part of the Navy, Marines are not subject to posse comitatus.

27 posted on 11/20/2001 5:22:18 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: flamefront
Can someone help me here? I recall reading a story that Mexico has essentially racist immigration laws. They don't allow anyone not of Hispanic ancestry to move there, and they won't allow any foreigner to own property their either (and I bet they don't let illegal aliens pay in-state tuition at their universities....like they started doing in Texas this year).

Shouldn't we at least insist that Anglo-americans get the same deal in Mexico that the Mexicans are demanding here? Should we demand street signs in English, bilingual ballots, voting for illegals, official celebration of the 4th of July, etc?

28 posted on 11/20/2001 5:22:30 PM PST by quebecois
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To: rightofrush
That's Marines with machine guns.
29 posted on 11/20/2001 5:24:26 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: kstewskis
ita all U.N
30 posted on 11/20/2001 5:26:52 PM PST by expose
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To: MonroeDNA
do you think dubya shares your views?
31 posted on 11/20/2001 5:31:01 PM PST by ken21
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To: quebecois
Should we demand street signs in English, bilingual ballots, voting for illegals, official celebration of the 4th of July, etc?

What you won't hear in Mexico: Hable usted Inglas? Press dos.

32 posted on 11/20/2001 5:31:44 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: ken21
americans can own property but only for 60 years, if i'm not mistaken

Not true. They can lease buildings and property, however it can be taken away from them at any time. Not a darn thing they can do about it either. Two cases I know of, friends in Puerto Penasco have had a family home there for years, however he cannot renew the lease on the land. He will lose his house in a few years. Also, there were several American "leasers" in Baja a couple of years back who had the threat of losing their homes, because the gov't deemed their leases "illegal". You must be Mexican to own property in Mexico.

33 posted on 11/20/2001 5:32:40 PM PST by kstewskis
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To: kstewskis
November 19, 2001

U.N. Report

By Betsy Pisik

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The United States last week deposited more than a half-billion dollars in U.N. accounts — a payment that would have felt far more newsworthy if not for the dramatic images from Afghanistan and the stream of diplomats lining up to address the U.N. General Assembly.

But the money is a milestone, and brings the United States about as close to fully paid up as it's going to get with the international organization.

The payment — $475 million in cash and another $107 million in forgiveness of U.N. peacekeeping debts to the United States — is the second and largest slice of the 1998 Helms-Biden money, which was authorized after the U.S. assessments were reduced a year ago.

The money will be used to reimburse governments that have contributed troops and materiel to peacekeeping missions over the years.

In all, the United States has paid a total of $1.56 billion to the organization this year, according to Patrick Kennedy, the U.S. diplomat in charge of financial and management matters.

That figure includes current and overdue payments to the regular budget and peacekeeping budgets, plus money for the U.N. tribunals and a $31 million contribution from Ted Turner to help other nations meet their suddenly increased peacekeeping assessments.

U.N. officials, needless to say, were pleased. "Substantially everything they said they would do, they did, in only about six weeks," said Joseph Connor, the U.N. undersecretary-general of administration and management.

He was referring to the Bush administration's embrace of the United Nations after the bombing of the Pentagon and World Trade Center.

Another $100 million for the regular budget is included in the pending State Department authorization bill, and should arrive by the end of the year.

The final installment of Helms-Biden money, $244 million, is mostly earmarked for the U.N. funds and programs in Geneva and Vienna, Austria, and is subject to various certifications and conditions that have largely been met, according to Mr. Kennedy.

According to U.N. accounting, the United States still owes about $600 million for long-disputed bills, such as an Ethiopian conference center that Washington says was unnecessary, and aid to Palestinians whom the United States considers terrorists.

Going without mail That $475 million was an electronic transfer of funds, by the way, not a check sent through the mail. And a good thing, too, because the United Nations has not had a general mail delivery since Oct. 24 — the day that postal workers in New Jersey became sick with anthrax.

The organization has decided it will not handle any outside mail until it can be irradiated for safety. But many others — from the U.S. government to media outlets to private companies — have had the same thought, and there aren't enough machines to go around.

U.N. officials have been trying to buy their own machine but there is, as Mr. Connor diplomatically put it, "a sellers' market," and the price has skyrocketed.

In the meantime, the organization is trucking the mail to an unnamed commercial facility where a limited amount of "priority" mail is being zapped and returned to New York. But for most staffers, the mailboxes remain empty.

34 posted on 11/20/2001 5:33:08 PM PST by expose
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To: Maalaea
Screw 'em!
35 posted on 11/20/2001 5:34:20 PM PST by dennisw
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To: kstewskis
CAN FOREIGNERS REALLY OWN PROPERTY IN MEXICO?

Yes, Americans and other foreigners may obtain direct ownership of property in the interior of Mexico. However, under Mexican law, foreigners cannot own property outright within the restricted zone. Instead, a real estate trust must be set up to hold title for the foreigner. Since foreigners are not able to enter into contracts in buy real estate, they must have a bank act on their behalf, much as a trust is use to hold property for minors because they also can not contract. The following is a brief outline of the law regarding such trust, known as "fideicomisos", but potential buyers should always get advice and have all real estate transactions overview by a licensed Mexican attorney.

36 posted on 11/20/2001 5:38:35 PM PST by ken21
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To: rightofrush
That's Marines with machine guns.

As long as he stays on our side of the border. Remember the Marine who went looking for his buddy in TJ a few years ago? He was stopped at the border, when he declared he had a dismantled firearm in his vehicle. He was whisked away into jail so fast, it would make Speedy Gonzales' head swim. It was quite the "international incident" but they tried to keep it "quiet." And we're supposed to look the other way?? Sorry San Diego. Your economy isn't worth risking the lives of our military. You'll just have to deal with it, like the rest of the state does.

37 posted on 11/20/2001 5:39:28 PM PST by kstewskis
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To: Maalaea
Screw 'em!
38 posted on 11/20/2001 5:39:46 PM PST by dennisw
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To: kstewskis
We should begin a letter-writing campaign to our congressmen to insist that any deal with mexico on immigration include fair new laws for American ownership of property in Mexico. It the mexicans are too xenophobic to allow Anglos to own property in Mexico, then we should be too xenophobic to allow any of them legal status here.
39 posted on 11/20/2001 5:39:48 PM PST by quebecois
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To: quebecois
If they sign that bill, I will not vote for Bush again. My state has been destroyed.
40 posted on 11/20/2001 5:44:46 PM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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