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1 posted on 11/19/2001 8:32:37 PM PST by Cuban123
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To: Cuban123
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2 posted on 11/19/2001 8:37:38 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: Cuban123
Time to educate some people that have been indoctrinated from the getgo about how BAD it will be to drill at Anwr, BS, we can do this cleanly and with little effect on the environment.

From what the environmentalists have been saying you would think that we are going to cover the whole reserve in oil and oil derricks. It's hardly 2% of the land of the reserve, as well as the fact that most oil drilling is cleaner then your local walmart parking lot. They put oil cloths under ALL vehicles for god sake.

There's more oil spilled in an auto parts store every day then spilled by an oil rig in a month, and what is spilled is IMMEDIATLEY cleaned up!!

I am tired of the Environmentalist Whackos getting all the publicity, there must be a conservative foundation or something that will help spread the message about how and WHY we need to drill up there!! Shoot, talk to the natives, they want drilling to start so badly that it is killing them. And expect the economy on the west coast to get a real good kickstart to boot.

It's a win/win, I have yet to see the problem...
4 posted on 11/19/2001 8:48:02 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: Cuban123
Bout freaking time!
5 posted on 11/19/2001 8:48:09 PM PST by July 4th
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6 posted on 11/19/2001 8:56:44 PM PST by Trailer Trash
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Of the 51% who oppose drilling in ANWR --

20% are uninformed

20% are misinformed

10% are simply incapable of rational thought

1% are environmentalists

8 posted on 11/19/2001 9:06:20 PM PST by okie01
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To: Cuban123
The poll question is loaded. They should ask the question like this if they want to ask a loaded question. Let them see what results they get.

- Should America drill for new oil in Alaska to reduce America's dependency on oil from Middle East countries?

The poll would be overwhelmingly in favor of drilling if asked like this. As soon as they put the words, "wildlife refuge" and oil drilling together, they get a bunch of people that think the two can not go together.

Where is that picture of all the caribu grazing around the pipeline???

9 posted on 11/19/2001 9:13:34 PM PST by BJungNan
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Look at the question. "Open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to Oil Exploration?" This is phrased to tilt it to the no. Who wants to harm the wildlife refuge?

But if they phrased the question differently, such as "to open up a tiny fraction of the reserve" how would the numbers shake down?

11 posted on 11/19/2001 9:40:08 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Cuban123
I can't believe anyone opposes it.
13 posted on 11/19/2001 9:47:33 PM PST by j.cam
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To: Cuban123
ANTI-SAUDI OIL BUMP!
15 posted on 11/19/2001 10:09:52 PM PST by brat
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Check this site out National Anxiety Center Founded in 1990 by Alan Caruba, a veteran business and science writer, the National Anxiety Center is a response to all the "Earth is Doomed!" stories in the media. Every April the Center gives our "Chicken Little Awards" to those individuals and groups who have scared the daylights out of millions of people and, each December, the Center takes a look back at "The Most Dubious News Stories of the Year." Throughout the year the Center works to inform the press so it can avoid being a part of the "Anxiety Industry", government agencies and non-governmental organizations, which deliberately mislead the public.

There are many great LINKS there too.

19 posted on 11/20/2001 1:15:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Those people forget that US strategical sites have often well coabitated with nature. Airports, Cape Caneveral and other off-hunting and off-building sites have been a haven for nature.
20 posted on 11/20/2001 1:34:40 AM PST by lavaroise
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Went into Eastern Moutain Sports this weekend, and there it was: a propaganda book on the counter extolling the pristine beauty of the ANWR. Stuffed with the pictures of baby this-or-thats. I think it was published by Patagonia or some such outdoor wear company.

Given the greenfreaks that inhabit the place, it would seem that they are preaching to the converted!

They were still pretty hard pressed to make it look anything like Yellowstone.

Wonder why they don't care about the environment in these middle eastern countries, where the technology to maintain the environment is decades behind ours?

25 posted on 11/20/2001 5:09:00 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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Jonah Goldberg, of National Review Online fame, wrote at least one article describing his trip to ANWR:

"Still, I do have a few shots that will give you a sense of what it looks like up there on the coastal plain. They are of mediocre quality — taken from the cockpit of a small, very jerky plane — so don't give me grief about how I'm no Ansel Adams or how I'm being unfair by showing crappy pictures of what Joe Lieberman calls "one of God's most awesome creations." Also, I don't have time to check against my written notes, so some of these pictures may be of the Prudhoe Bay side of the Canning River, which forms the border of ANWR's coastal plain. The important thing is that it is almost impossible to tell the difference between the ANWR side and the Prudhoe side without checking my notes and a map.

So, this and this [133, 134] are pictures of one of the spots where the Canning River lets out into the Arctic Ocean. Just beyond it is ANWR. And this and this [144, 145] are pictures of what I believe is a typical oil-loading facility on what amounts to the coastal plain on the Prudhoe side of the Canning River. This [142] is a typical pipeline running over the tundra and so is this [143]. This [140] is what the coastal plain and most of the tundra in Prudhoe look like, complete with the puddles I described. And so is this [141]. And so is this [137]. There some places without the puddles, however [196].

Now, as for the mountains in ANWR: There are many beautiful mountain ranges in this South Carolina-sized wilderness. But the ones closest to the coastal plain are not covered in lush trees, as you might think from looking at the media coverage. This far north it's too cold, dark, and bleak during the winter for trees to survive. So these mountains are impressive geologically, but — at least from what I saw — they look like barren, massive piles of gravel. For example: [169] [179] [171]. And some have really cool glacier-ice formations on them, like this [178]. But remember, these [180] are still very far from this [150].

I did see some caribou closer than this [150] but I didn't snap any good pictures. As you can see [151], they are hanging out on the shore of the Arctic Ocean trying to escape the bugs. I like to call the one on the very far left-hand corner Arthur. Speaking of the Arctic Ocean, the ice never really goes away [152]. Here you can see the dividing line between what were two giant sheets of ice [154]. That line is not man-made in any way.

And finally, this is me [131] looking like a doofus in hardhat and goggles at the Alpine Oil installation. The reason I don't look fatter is that standing against a large petroleum facility has a beneficial slimming effect, which is the real reason why I am favor of opening up ANWR. I do not pretend that you couldn't take prettier pictures up close on the tundra where the drilling might be, but that's not why I was there. And, besides, you couldn't take pictures of beautiful mountains where the drilling would be because, well, there are no mountains of any kind where the drilling would be.

Anyway, I've got more pictures, but that should do the trick. Besides, this didn't save me any time anyway. I'll just have to wing the speech. "

30 posted on 11/20/2001 6:20:20 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Cuban123
Bush needs to use the bully pulpit for this one.

1) All Americas oil comes from Texas oil wells. Gore said so!
2) Alaska drilling will kill all the plants and numerous animals that live in the Alaska rain forrests.
3) It causes pollution in NY and Los Angeles.
4)Only rich capital businesses use that kind of oil.

Bush needs to educate. You would not believe how many people have no idea our oil comes from the middle east. If the polls are rising, someone must be letting them know!

32 posted on 11/20/2001 6:40:20 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Cuban123

ANWR:

It stands for something else, I found out on Google...


36 posted on 11/20/2001 6:54:54 AM PST by Gasshog
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Oh NO!! the poor bears are being attacked by the evil pipelines!!

Oh this baby bear is being SWALLOWED - oh the humanity!

Oh Brother!

^_____^

38 posted on 11/20/2001 7:01:53 AM PST by Gasshog
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Drill away! You have my blessing.
41 posted on 11/20/2001 7:06:43 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules
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ANWAR… p>Species can you provide us with the data on how much oil is in ANWR....thanks bud!

In 1998 the USGS did a study that concluded that there are between 5.7 billion to 16 Billion barrels of recoverable Oil in the "1002" Area of ANWR.


An exploration rig seen damaging the tundra and disturbing the abundent wildlife on the costal plane of ANWR


Beautiful Spring day in "Americas Serengetti"

That is a LOT of oil!

and it dosent even take into consideration the nearly 200 TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas there (over 150 years supply at the current rate of use in the U.S.)

A little perspective on the size of ANWR development:

Gee, then I guess I must be living in a huge wasteland... actually, I find the sight of all those oil derricks in the pastures and fields while driving from Austin to Houston rather beautiful...

As for your assertion that drilling in ANWR would decimate the environment, only 2,000 acres out of 19.5 MILLION are even under consideration for drilling. And those 19.5 million acres are but a FRACTION of the total land mass of Alaska. Also, contrary to dire predictions of the devasting impact on wildlife that would occur when we ran the pipeline in Prudhoe bay, the caribou herd there have actually grown to record numbers.

For REAL information on ANWR, let's use science, not the knee-jerk, anti-reason "precautionary principle": click here for info on ANWR and here for an excellent article by Linda Chavez about how Alaskans themselves view it. The Heritage Foundation also has an article which simply and plainly states the case for drilling here. Also read The National Center for Public Policy Research Press Release entitled "Bush Is Right: Opening ANWR To Oil Exploration Would Help Consumers Without Hurting Environment"

42 posted on 11/20/2001 7:08:54 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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An ANWR bump your way.....
44 posted on 11/20/2001 7:12:59 AM PST by deport
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The enviros opposed the Prudhoe Bay drilling in the 70's. They said it would decimate the caribou population. Since it's been built the caribou have flourished. Now, they're saying drilling in ANWR would decimate the caribou population. Unreal.
48 posted on 11/20/2001 7:29:21 AM PST by lasereye
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