Freeper Research on the Anthrax Perp

Various FR Posters | 11/15/01 | Various FR Posters

[Alamo-Girl]

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language, he may be a proficient computer user or coder especially if Al Queda.

He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems – of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures.

He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Malik’s help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax.

There probably are other people in his cell who may already be in custody - one with Florida license plates and others from Canada.

Several arrests of Pakistani nationals were made in Trenton/Hamilton two weeks ago --some in the Greenwood Village apartments, and some at 1001 N. Olden Street. The N. Olden Street arrests took place after a witness observed a man gingerly placing letters enclosed in a ziploc bag into his car. The car had Florida license plates.

Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton.

There may be a chain of infection following the medical route – like there is following the mail route.

In DelRay Beach, Florida – a pharmacist (Gregg Chatterton at Huber Healthmart Drugs) claimed to have talked to Atta and another hijacker when they came into his pharmacy with ailments last August. Mostly, we heard about Atta, who had red hands. But the other hijacker, Marwan Al-Shehhi, had symptoms of inhalation anthrax (cough) that would have required him to visit a doctor in his area. The pharmacist said that a man resembling Al-Shehhi had returned to have a prescription filled, but his name was not found in their records – leading the investigators to think he had used an alias. The pharmacist said the red hands looked like a result from washing with bleach – that it did not look like cutaneous anthrax.

In Chester PA on 11/14/01 - teams of FBI agents complete with hazmat gear and tents, broke down door(s), swabbed and seized evidence at two homes and the city hall. One house was shared by City Health Commissioner Irshad Shaikh and his brother Masood. The other was the home of city accountant Asif Kazi. They are all from Pakistan. Kazi’s wife had a prescription for Cipro. Kazi had been seen dumping a cloudy liquid and handing a silver canister to someone.

Dr. Shaikh PhD. has been the Commissioner of Health since 1994. He received his undergrad and postgraduate diplomas in Community Medicine in Pakistan. He received his Masters and PhD in Public Health from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is fellow of the Public Health Leadership Institute (PHLI). PHLI is an executive leadership program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the University of California at Berkeley. Dr. Shaikh also holds a faculty appointment at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

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Freepers wonder if this Could he be THE Asif Kazi, or is it a very common Pakistani name?

Tests are now being performed for Dr. Gerald Weisfogel who believes he may have had skin anthrax earlier than the mailings. There are three Gerald M. Weisfogel's listed in NJ - Franklin Park, Kendall Park and Metuchen. Dr. Gerald Weisfogel is chief of cardiology at the JFK Medical Center in New Jersey, which is in Edison, New Jersey. Edison is just across the river from New Brunswick. He indicated on GMA that he had Middle Eastern patients.

Kendall Park, Franklin Park, Edison, and Metuchen are all close to each other, going north on Rte. 1. So all the addresses are probably for the same guy: hospital in Edison, offices in Metuchen and either or Franklin Park or Kendall Park, and home in the fourth place

There are significant labs in Piscataway, across the river from New Brunswick, the main campus of RWJ. Robert Wood Johnson has two high-profile microbiology labs in Piscataway -- the CABM(Center forAdvanced Biotechnology and Medicine) and the Waksman Institute. The Waksman Institute is a "microbe farm," producing germ "products" for industry and research.

Metuchen is right up the road to the northeast. (And down the road about 12 miles along Route 1 is the Islamic Society and Franklin Park.)

The perp accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway – he drove in. He may have gone to New York to pick up or deliver the anthrax. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Kathy. The perp, may be working for RWJ University Hospital and had a business contact with Kathy’s hospital.

He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) – he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin Park.

There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting.

He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named "Greendale" in Abingdon, VA (a tri-state area.) He didn’t grab that name out of the air – neither brook nor dale would be common words to him.

In the alternative, he might have intentionally changed the name of a nearby school "Greenbrook" to "Greendale." The Greenbrook school only goes to the 4^th grade.

Another possibility: Greendale and Franklin, WI are right next to each other. The NJ school is Greenbrook School, not Greendale. Could it be some Freudian slip? There are 15,000 Muslims in the area.

The block lettering may indicate that he is a tutor for elementary level students or has (or is undertaking) an engineering or architecture education.

The emphasis on the letters might have been intentional – pointing to ATTA.

If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular – going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc.

He may be dead or missing.

Medical anthrax trail - there should also be a star for New Brunswick!

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[Les_Miserables]

The postulate the the guy is on a student visa is no more far fetched than the assertion put forth by the feds that the guy is a passive agressive. Lighten up.

[Alamo-Girl]

Great catch!!! Thank you so much for the research and analysis! I share your concern over what you have found!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for your research and analysis on all of these threads!!! Thank you for the two submissions for this round!

I'm anxious to see (if we are allowed to see it) the lab analysis of each specimen from Ft. Detrick. I'm particularly curious if the only difference between envelopes is size of the spores - or if the batches were processed differently!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the kudos!!!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much (blush!!!) I also hope that Atta wasn't handling plutonium. The pharmacist sounded very sure that the red hands would be caused by washing in too much bleach and since the FBI seized the bleach from the Chester PA bust, I suspect it may be relevant to the investigation.

[Dog Gone]

I was speaking of what must be shown in court to prove an allegation of libel. Unfortunately, anybody can file suit against any of us, whether or not it's justified.

You have no choice. If you don't defend against the suit, you lose. If you can't afford an attorney, you probably lose.

There's no solution to that problem on the horizon. I'm sorry you were on the receiving end.

[Alamo-Girl]

bumping for daytime contributions to the profile...

[archy]

North Korean is my bet.

If you want to consider non-Middle-Eastern possibilities, think about China.

Chinese training or background is certainly possible. The individual may well not be a native Korean, but neither would it surprise me if he/she/they is/are.

English is not his primary language and neither is Arabic. Note the dates on the xeroxed letters in the *anthrax letterbomb*

I don't know Arabic. Why do the dates indicate that the writer is not Arabic?

I agree that the sender does not appear to be an American. The date is written 09-11-01. All the Americans I know would have written 9/11/01, without the leading 0, and with slashes instead of dashes.

A telegrapher [commercial or railroad] or military communicator would have used the zero, but those trained since the 1970s routinely add a slash to the zero to differentiate it from the letter *O*. A European would follow the month/day/format of 11.09.01 and the similar US military format would routinely abbreviate the month to eliminate the confusion: 11 SEP 2001. Some computer-world oriented procedures also follow the logical day/month/year format, though since the Y2K panic, the year is most commonly written with all four digits. I have known those from the Middle East to use the 09-11-01 type format, however.

Much has been made of the fact that the date is written in the American order of month-day-year, but most foreigners would be aware of that and, in fact, would have become accustomed to that order after a few years here -- they'd be repeatedly told by Americans that they were writing dates incorrectly if they used the day-month-year order. But nobody misunderstands a date written with dashes instead of slashes; nobody even comments on such a thing, so a foreigner could easily not realize that it looks foreign.

Note though that telegraphers [and some amateur radio operators] also sometimes send the quicker *dash* character [*----* in international Morse] rather than *slash* [-**-*] [or *stroke* in Brit/Euro parlance] and thereby routinely write that char as the seperator. And at least some air traffic controllers will use dashes, rather than slash/stroke.

See also *this article*

Thanks for the link on the Zimbabwe anthrax outbreak; I had never heard of it.

You're welcome. Neither are most folks aware of the circa 1991 Anthrax infection of Arkansas State Police narcotics investigator Russell Welch while working on a case involving military and politically connected individuals in the Pine Bluff area. I suppose that'll soon be a *Homeland Defense Militery Secret.*

-archy-/-

[Don Joe]

"Great catch!!! Thank you so much for the research and analysis! I share your concern over what you have found!

You're quite welcome. Is that weird or what!?!?!? I did a doubletake when I clicked on the replies link, I thought I must be doing something wrong to keep landing in the same spot, but the dates, names, and IP addresses were all different. It was like being in a "Groundhog Day" time-loop or something. Same thing over and over with a subtle difference each time.

Things yet unchecked (I was tired when I stumbled on the place late last night, and just waking up now, waiting for the coffee to kick in, gotta go sight in before the sun goes all the way down, deer season opened yesterday, and I'm "buck"ing for King of the Procrastinator's title, argh...):

I didn't try was going backwards through the thread -- going back to "mustafa's" post to see if it was the original, or if there was a more interesting history to the thread extending back prior to that post.

I also didn't think to look at other threads in that forum. It might be interesting to see what (if any) other traffic there is.

[Mitchell]

I have known those from the Middle East to use the 09-11-01 type format, however.

Then why did you conclude that the writer wasn't Arabic?

[Alamo-Girl]

Hmmmm .... you have certainly captured my attention on the discussion thread. I'll go take a closer peek...

[Don Joe]

"I was speaking of what must be shown in court to prove an allegation of libel. Unfortunately, anybody can file suit against any of us, whether or not it's justified."

There's a wide gulf between the theoretical and the practical. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to fall on the latter side of that equation, so I tend to go into argh!-mode when I see someone explaining how there's no reason to worry so long as "the truth" is on their side. For better or worse, it takes "the truth" plus a lawyer, and that knocks a lot of folks outta the ring right at the start of the process, "being right" notwithstanding.

"You have no choice. If you don't defend against the suit, you lose. If you can't afford an attorney, you probably lose."

Well, there is a third option: since most of these lawsuits are basically little more than attempts to get people to shut up and go away, it's often possible to get an out of court settlement deal. The upside is that you escape with most of your life (if not your stomach-lining) intact; the downside is that you learn to self-censor, be extremely circumspect, and become a living example of the effects of that which is designed to (and succeeds at) chilling the expression of opinion on the Internet. (Does it seem like I'm choosing my words very carefully in this post? That's what happens when one finds out the hard way that his RL ID is but a subpoena away...)

"There's no solution to that problem on the horizon. I'm sorry you were on the receiving end."

Hey, me too! :)

There's a quasi-solution, i.e., SLAPP laws; but they won't help "the little guys" until the Big Guys get SLAPP'd often enough to develop an aversion to go after the Little Guys. Until then, the LG's will continue to get knocked in the head, with damn little they can do about it, regardless of whether they're right or wrong.

That's life.

[Yellow Rose of Texas]

No more info but a hugh BUMP for others to see and add to!

[whenigettime]

Thanks for the most excellent information on the subject of who's who in this anthrax terror. Bumping.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for bumping by!!!

[Alamo-Girl]

You are quite welcome! Thanks for the kudos and the bump!

[dano1]

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language.

I agree. I also speculate that just prior to the 9/11 attacks, the organization became aware that Atta had developed a strong grudge against someone associated with the Florida tabloid due to some precieved personal affront which was becoming an obsession for Atta. The affront may have had to do with a precieved slight on the part of a woman. I further speculate that, wishing to calm down Atta and/or to cement his resolve for the coming mission, the organization tossed Atta a sop by sending the letter to the American Media Corporation. Atta may have been present while the letter was prepared, or Atta may have posted the letter himself. Because this letter was not a priority to the organization, they did not use their best Anthrax for this letter. I don't think the FBI has released the text of the letter that went to the Florida tabloid, if it's even survived, but I'd bet the text and tone of that letter was different than the other letters.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your analysis!!! I just posted an update of this thread here. If you don't mind, would you repost your comments over there for the new thread?

[zeaal]

Bumping up for the Weekend Freepers!