Posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language, he may be a proficient computer user or coder especially if Al Queda. He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures. He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. Hes been to the doctors office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road. The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Maliks help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax. There probably are other people in his cell who may already be in custody - one with Florida license plates and others from Canada. Several arrests of Pakistani nationals were made in Trenton/Hamilton two weeks ago --some in the Greenwood Village apartments, and some at 1001 N. Olden Street. The N. Olden Street arrests took place after a witness observed a man gingerly placing letters enclosed in a ziploc bag into his car. The car had Florida license plates. Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton. There may be a chain of infection following the medical route like there is following the mail route. In DelRay Beach, Florida a pharmacist (Gregg Chatterton at Huber Healthmart Drugs) claimed to have talked to Atta and another hijacker when they came into his pharmacy with ailments last August. Mostly, we heard about Atta, who had red hands. But the other hijacker, Marwan Al-Shehhi, had symptoms of inhalation anthrax (cough) that would have required him to visit a doctor in his area. The pharmacist said that a man resembling Al-Shehhi had returned to have a prescription filled, but his name was not found in their records leading the investigators to think he had used an alias. The pharmacist said the red hands looked like a result from washing with bleach that it did not look like cutaneous anthrax. In Chester PA on 11/14/01 - teams of FBI agents complete with hazmat gear and tents, broke down door(s), swabbed and seized evidence at two homes and the city hall. One house was shared by City Health Commissioner Irshad Shaikh and his brother Masood. The other was the home of city accountant Asif Kazi. They are all from Pakistan. Kazis wife had a prescription for Cipro. Kazi had been seen dumping a cloudy liquid and handing a silver canister to someone. Dr. Shaikh PhD. has been the Commissioner of Health since 1994. He received his undergrad and postgraduate diplomas in Community Medicine in Pakistan. He received his Masters and PhD in Public Health from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is fellow of the Public Health Leadership Institute (PHLI). PHLI is an executive leadership program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the University of California at Berkeley. Dr. Shaikh also holds a faculty appointment at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. Welcome to the Johns Hopkins University Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies"...Sponsored by The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation & The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation..." Freepers wonder if this Could he be THE Asif Kazi, or is it a very common Pakistani name? Tests are now being performed for Dr. Gerald Weisfogel who believes he may have had skin anthrax earlier than the mailings. There are three Gerald M. Weisfogel's listed in NJ - Franklin Park, Kendall Park and Metuchen. Dr. Gerald Weisfogel is chief of cardiology at the JFK Medical Center in New Jersey, which is in Edison, New Jersey. Edison is just across the river from New Brunswick. He indicated on GMA that he had Middle Eastern patients. Kendall Park, Franklin Park, Edison, and Metuchen are all close to each other, going north on Rte. 1. So all the addresses are probably for the same guy: hospital in Edison, offices in Metuchen and either or Franklin Park or Kendall Park, and home in the fourth place There are significant labs in Piscataway, across the river from New Brunswick, the main campus of RWJ. Robert Wood Johnson has two high-profile microbiology labs in Piscataway -- the CABM(Center forAdvanced Biotechnology and Medicine) and the Waksman Institute. The Waksman Institute is a "microbe farm," producing germ "products" for industry and research. Metuchen is right up the road to the northeast. (And down the road about 12 miles along Route 1 is the Islamic Society and Franklin Park.) The perp accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway he drove in. He may have gone to New York to pick up or deliver the anthrax. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Kathy. The perp, may be working for RWJ University Hospital and had a business contact with Kathys hospital. He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin Park. There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting. He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named "Greendale" in Abingdon, VA (a tri-state area.) He didnt grab that name out of the air neither brook nor dale would be common words to him. In the alternative, he might have intentionally changed the name of a nearby school "Greenbrook" to "Greendale." The Greenbrook school only goes to the 4th grade. Another possibility: Greendale and Franklin, WI are right next to each other. The NJ school is Greenbrook School, not Greendale. Could it be some Freudian slip? There are 15,000 Muslims in the area. The block lettering may indicate that he is a tutor for elementary level students or has (or is undertaking) an engineering or architecture education. The emphasis on the letters might have been intentional pointing to ATTA. If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc. He may be dead or missing. Medical anthrax trail - there should also be a star for New Brunswick!
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Then why the hell are you camped out on her thread if it bothers you so much? Are you masochistic or are you unhappy unless you're tearing other people down?
Dig deep, here, Fred. She probably drives you nuts because she's so well-respected and well-liked around here and you're not. Maybe if you'd spend less time nit-picking and more time doing something constructive (like r-e-s-e-a-r-c-h), your incessant need for criticizing others would prevent many of us from just skipping over your replies.
Ok, so we know for sure that this guy has a student visa? That means we can disregard all people inside the United States who dont have a student visa? This is official and I have to go along with it?
As to the validity of her claims I will put her speculation up against any of the crap the FBI has released lately.
LOL! Well, thats not saying much!
What hasn't been mentioned is that the perp could very easily have access to developed strains and is handling them in a glove box in his home.
Sure, but lets put that in the speculation category. Lets dont say, He is using a glove box in his home, and lets dont say, He has a student visa, if we dont know for sure if he has one or not. We can say maybe hes using a glove box and maybe he has a student visa.
My money's on the strain coming from the former Soviet Union or worse from ATCC straight to Iraq. And no, I don't think this was a "right wing" group.
Im betting on Ames.
Consider this: Historically poisonings were done by women. And the FBI knows this.
Yeah, mostly using household poisons. But most mass killers have been men. Women usually only poison when they are going to cash in a big insurance policy. Men will poison for ego and political reasons.
Im leaning about 80% toward a foreign Arab and about 20% for a native born whacko (but more of a leftist than a right-winger).
On a lighter note: if the Homeland Defence Agency thinks that you may know something, there are those on FR who would support your being arrested and tortured for the information. (Derschowicz[sp?] seems to support this idea too.) They may simply refuse to believe that you are not withholding (two h's in a row) evidence.
If you suspect Ames then you can point the finger at ATCC and thus the US.
Do you honestly think the FBI would admit that the US sold Ames to Iraq?
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