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To: veronica
Glad you flagged me ... if for no other reason that I'd been meaning to look up the "My God My God why hast thou forsaken me" Psalm (22).

I get in as much trouble at Catechism as I do here for speaking 'incorrectly' according to the Sages. In the midst of making a point on the that profound moment of suffering at which most men (well, the bullheaded ones like me, anyway) finally find God, I mentioned Christ's crying "My God My God why hast thou forsaken me" on the cross.

Got in trouble immediately, of course, by those who wanted to ruin my "true man" picture of His supreme suffering on our behalf by someone who pointed out that -- as a faithful Jew -- Christ knew only too well what words would be supplied to finish his statement by other faithful Jews.

So what does this have to do with those heretic Muslims? It's my understanding they cite this as grounds for believing Christ couldn't possibly be true God (from true God).

Oh thee of little faith in The Book of the Jews. Sad it's come to this ridiculous, petty "Oh, did we start the day before Ramadan" bs.

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:56 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
"My God My God why hast thou forsaken me" Psalm (22).

Last Palm Sunday, hearing these words in a Trinitarian sense for the first time, I was filled with a holy dread that I still can't describe. Especially when I think of St. Andrei Rublev's icon of the Holy Trinity (which Fr. Klores mentioned in last Sunday's sermon), the classic depiction of the Trinity's perfect order, unity, and accord, to imagine the Son cut off and forsaken from the order of that perfect symmetry -- to imagine the Trinity's very existence, and with it all-that-Is, perched on the edge of chaos -- the suffering and death of the Son transcend mere grief, and become a fearful thing.

The primal war between God and the rebel angels who stands for confusion and eternal death thus emerges as a foreshadowing and prophecy of this supreme and everlasting triumph over death.

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by Romulus
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