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'Muslim extremists' ignore Vatican, build mosque
AP/Jerusalem Post ^ | 11/14/01 | Laurie Copans

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:51 PM PST by veronica

JERUSALEM - Working under cover of darkness, Muslims in Jesus' boyhood town of Nazareth have begun constructing a mosque alongside the Basilica of the Annunciation, despite protests by the Vatican and Israeli authorities.

The Vatican, in a statement issued in Rome, called on the Israeli government to stop "Muslim extremists" from building the mosque next to the church marking the site where Christians believe the angel Gabriel told Mary she would give birth to Jesus.

"Building the mosque here will in effect put this holy place in a state of permanent siege and make its gate a gathering place for the most hostile elements," the statement said, according to the Vatican news service Fides.

Israeli authorities charged today that the work constituted a provocation and threatened to stop the construction by force, even as the Muslim holy month of Ramadan begins. Local Christians warned the work could re-ignite the interreligious violence that erupted at the site last year.

Construction on the mosque began Monday, without the necessary permits, but the Israeli Lands Authority ordered it halted. The Wakf, or Islamic Trust, stopped the work today but said it will start again if it does not get the necessary permits within a week.

Witnesses said crews were working at the site Monday and Tuesday nights in an apparent attempt to keep the construction secret.

A lawyer for the Muslims, Dan Shafrir, said the construction had been going on day and night. The Israeli Lands Authority promised to help the Islamic Trust obtain the permits for the Muslim-owned land if the construction was stopped, Shafrir said.

"We're not hiding anything from anyone," Shafrir said. "Whether or not we get the permits, we will continue construction in a week."

The construction was halted only temporarily, and steel beams arrived at the site today, said Ahmed Saleh Hamudeh, the head of the Islamic Trust in Nazareth.

Christians are a minority in Nazareth, and tensions over the mosque have been running high between the Christian community and the Muslim majority in the city of 70,000. Nazareth is the largest Arab city in Israel.

Under pressure from Christian leaders, including the Vatican, the previous Israeli government worked out a compromise in 1999 to defuse a tense situation in which Muslims were praying in a large tent a few meters from the church, as a planned millennium visit by Pope John Paul II neared. The Vatican had hinted the issue could force the cancellation of the pope's visit, which took place as scheduled in March 2000.

According to the agreement, the tent was removed, and a mosque would be built on one third of the 2,000-square-meter plot, but only after the millennium year.

Church leaders in the Holy Land complain that Israel made excessive concessions to the Muslims, while ignoring promises made to Christian leaders, including the pope.

Despite the pledges of the previous government, Israeli officials are indicating that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon will not allow construction of the mosque.

"A decision on the matter will be made by the government" due to the sensitivity of the issue, Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nachshon said. "We are absolutely against the work going on at the moment."

Israel believes that starting construction days before the start of Ramadan is a cynical use of the holiday by the Muslims, with the hope authorities will not act to stop the work, a government official said on condition of anonymity.

The authorities will forcibly halt the work if necessary, the official said.

Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, himself a Muslim, sided with the Christians in the dispute, saying in December 1999 that the Muslims should not build the mosque so close to the church.

The Muslims say a Crusader-era sage is buried at the site, and they hoped to build a large mosque there. Church leaders wanted the plot for a plaza to accommodate millennium pilgrims.


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To: veronica
But, but the new President of the Catholic whatever said we need to do something about racism. What is the Vatican being racist??
101 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:54 PM PST by nancetc
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To: schmelvin
In Latin, not a language the common people could understand.

Very often and in very many places, the Bible readings (and the homily, of course) were done in the local language.

102 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:55 PM PST by fdcc
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To: usual suspect
I can't help thinking about what the Taliban did to the Hindu Buddhist shrines in Afghanistan.

And you AREN'T thinking about Joseph's Tomb because the US media hushed it up (it would have made the Palestinians look bad)

103 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:55 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: schmelvin
In Latin, not a language the common people could understand.

All preaching was in the vernacular, usually including Biblical passages. Also, in regions other than Europe, vernacular was used in the readings.

104 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:55 PM PST by jrherreid
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To: yurigagarin
The Hugenots WERE persecuted brutally by the forces of the Roman social state

The church and state were intermingled throughout Medieval history. Many eventually fled to America to escape church/state persecution. The First Amendment of our Constitution barring the establishment of a state church is based on lessons learned from this bleak history.

105 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:58 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: schmelvin
Who persecuted the Puritans?
106 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:58 PM PST by fdcc
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To: veronica
The claim about a Sage buried there is just a made up story. There's nothing to the claim. So many Muslims have told the extremists in Nazareth to stand down, but they are driven by their ideology which left reason and goodwill at the door.

I can imagine the call to prayer going out from this new mosque and the bells of the Basilica ringing out at the same time. Then the Muslims will demand that the bells stop ringing. You can fill in the rest.

107 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:59 PM PST by history_matters
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To: fdcc
Who persecuted the Puritans?

Once they got to America, they did an excellent job of persecuting each other and the American Indians who saved them from starving to death. Prior to that, they were persecuted by the Catholics. Whether or not they were persecuted by other Protestant sects in Europe, I do not know.

108 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:00 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: schmelvin
Many eventually fled to America to escape church/state persecution.

And promptly began persecutions of their own.

109 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:00 PM PST by jrherreid
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To: DWSUWF
ROFLMAO!!!
110 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:01 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: weegee
The islamatrons made the fatal mistake that all geeks eventually make...

They revealed their secret fear to us.

And now we know that they're insanely porciphobic.

Time to stuff a greasy pork wiener up their butts and give them a dose of atomic underwear!

112 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:01 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: schmelvin
Once they got to America, they did an excellent job of persecuting each other and the American Indians who saved them from starving to death. Prior to that, they were persecuted by the Catholics. Whether or not they were persecuted by other Protestant sects in Europe, I do not know.

The Puritans (of Plymouth Colony fame) fled Protestant England.

113 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:01 PM PST by fdcc
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To: veronica
The religion of peace strikes again.
114 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:02 PM PST by electron1
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To: DWSUWF
Time to stuff a greasy pork wiener up their butts...

Some of them may well enjoy that.

115 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:02 PM PST by Nachum
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To: DWSUWF
My idea is to start a little BBQ joint right next to the Rock. We can use the rock as a place to slaughter the pigs. SOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!Pig! Smoked sausage! Makes me hungry just thinkin' bout it.

Islam delenda est.

117 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:03 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: schmelvin
Prior to that, they were persecuted by the Catholics.

Need to brush up on your religious history a bit there, buddy. England was a protestant (Anglican) country, not a Catholic one. Catholics were prevented by law from even owning property.

118 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:04 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: schmelvin
Fox was a propogandist, and by this I don't mean an apologist. Take his facts with salt.
119 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:12 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: yurigagarin
Excellent point and educational, too. I, also, agree with post #109. I'm not here to argue for the sake of argument, I only post what I believe is true. My eyes and ears are open. I will research what I've read during this thread, and I'll admit it if I'm wrong.
120 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:12 PM PST by schmelvin
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