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To: Dane
Did you know that every single US military person and police and federal officer has taken a sworn oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic?

Should they all report each other as domestic terrorism suspects? After all, they all have guns and also engage in "paramilitary training" as well as swearing to defend the constitution.

Don't you see how asinine that category of "domestic terrorist" is? It permits police to target literally tens of millions of law abiding Americans as domestic terrorism suspects.

And today, that means secret searches, no client lawyer privacy etc after the "Patriot Act of 2001".

148 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:53 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
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150 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:53 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Travis McGee
Don't you see how asinine that category of "domestic terrorist" is? It permits police to target literally tens of millions of law abiding Americans as domestic terrorism suspects.

It lets police target people who are for the violent overthrow of the government.

I guess you probably thought that McCarthy was a nut when he saw communists in Hollywood.

153 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:54 PM PST by Dane
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To: Travis McGee
And today, that means secret searches, no client lawyer privacy etc after the "Patriot Act of 2001".

Does this Act cover US citizens, or just foreign nationals rounded up on suspicion of terrorist culpability?

154 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:55 PM PST by maica
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To: Travis McGee
Travis, please note that "defenders" is in quotes.

Just because someone loudly postures as, or sincerely believes he is, a defender of the Constitution does not make him one in fact. McVeigh probably thought he was defending the Constitution. The folks in the ACLU probably think they're defending the Constitution.

Like all things, discriminating judgement is required here to separate obnoxious jerks like the ACLU or a "nonviolent" Christian Identitist (who, IMNHO, are about as non-violent as Muslims :o) from the Earth Liberation Front or The Brotherhood.

The problem is that we've all been conditioned by the media to not be "judgemental" or "discriminating," so we've lost the ability to say that Christian Identity folks aren't Christian, that "defenders" of the Constitution may not be real defenders of the Constitution, and that some of the people who are supposedly on our side are scumbags. (Just because he's OUR scumbag doesn't make him any more palatable. But that's me being judgemental and discriminating, like all those dead white guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.)

162 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:03 PM PST by Poohbah
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