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To: MilleniumBug
Re Birds. For years there was an ongoing battle between the Air Force and Congress regarding the "chicken gun". the Air Force developed a gun that would shoot chickens at jet engines on a test stand to simulate/study the ingestion of a bird and the resulting damage.

I was stationed at Minot AFB and one of our B-52 ran into a flock of geese, (hey guys its fall and bird migratory season), during the fall migration. There was a great deal of damage and two of the B-52s engines were taken out. fortunately the B-52 had 6 more but I remember talking to the crew afterwards and they said that the recovery was dicey because they were flying a low level bombing route. But, and this is the important part, they were already airborne. Since takeoff and landing is the most critical aspect of flight it's not surprising that the crew of AA 587 was unable to handle the emergency.

The post with the picture of the wildlife refuge shows that the bird strikes might have happened before the end of the runway and that the engine shredded and parts of the engine knocked the vertical stabilizer off into Jamaica bay at the sw corner of the refuge then the timeline is fairly straight forward.

Let the accident investigators look at the forensics. Put the tinfoil away.

221 posted on 11/13/2001 7:47:39 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: Young Werther
the engine shredded and parts of the engine knocked the vertical stabilizer off into Jamaica bay

Like many on this thread, you're leaving out the part that the tail fell of first,
before the engine exploded, and was found miles away, intact.

235 posted on 11/13/2001 7:54:33 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Young Werther
...the bird strikes might have happened before the end of the runway and that the engine shredded and parts of the engine knocked the vertical stabilizer ...

doubtful, IMO,the engines on the airbus are low under the wing spaced well away from the centerline (and top!) of the aircraft.

sceptical, I am...

236 posted on 11/13/2001 7:54:38 AM PST by fod
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