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But this doesn't explain to me why the vertical stabilizer separated from the plane before the engines did. And why was it in such perfect condition when fished from the water. If an engine had hit it, I would think there would be some visible damage to it. But it looked as if it had sheered off perfectly. Birds?

Last night on Fox, in the 10 est time, there were 2 very interesting guests on. The first was Vernon Gross, former NTSB member, who early in the day had thought that it was an accident, as it was being reported that an engine just fell off, and the plane plummeted. But he was changing his mind as of last night, because of that vertical stabilizer coming off before the engine(s) did.

And the 2nd guest in that segment was Howard Safire, former NYC police commissioner, who said something really interesting to me. He said that flight 587 must not turn into an investigation like TWA 800 had. He said with 800, it boiled down in the end to a political decision about what the outcome of the investigation would be. And that it had been a struggle between the FBI and the NTSB. He didn't say who won, but I'm thinking it was the FBI... (Protecting someone's interests, who happened to be in the WH at that time?)

And the 2nd guest in that segment was Howard Safire, former NYC police commissioner, who said something really interesting to me. He said that flight 587 must not turn into an investigation like TWA 800 had. He said with 800, it boiled down in the end to a political decision about what the outcome of the investigation would be. And that it had been a struggle between the FBI and the NTSB. He didn't say who won, but I'm thinking it was the FBI... (Protecting someone's interests, who happened to be in the WH at that time?)

I didn't follow the Flt 800 story closely but, looking back at EgyptAir, it's clear that these investigations are largely driven by politics and that the truth has very little to do with it.

"He (Howard Safire, former NYC police commissioner) said with 800, it boiled down in the end to a political decision about what the outcome of the investigation would be. And that it had been a struggle between the FBI and the NTSB."

Thanks for that report. Did not see it. Is there any further question that TWA800 was an investigation controlled to produce a desired outcome? (similar to almost all the "investigations" which occurred during the Clinoton Reign of Terror???)

Reason enough for sane people to question anything coming out of the mouths of the people investigating this crash.

President Bush - please - charge someone to see to it that the TRUTH and ONLY THE TRUTH is discovered and reported.

WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Don't follow the Clinton clones who say we can't!

By the way - if it is a flock of birds that caused the crash - so be it. Surely that would mean the engine turbines would show signs of bird bleechhh all over its internal parts, correct?