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To: mwl1
If the eyewitnesses are correct about the wing falling off then this was NOT a mechanical failure. The wing is the strongest part of the plane. The fuselage is more likely to fall off the wing. If the wing fell off then it was broken off. This could only be done by a midair collision or a bomb.
511 posted on 11/12/2001 7:00:24 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
No, abc-radio eyewitness said engine fell off, after explosion right where wing meets fuselage. She didn't say the wing fell off. She had a really good view. But as John Nance said, 6 people could see the same incident and report 6 different things.
527 posted on 11/12/2001 7:02:53 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: P-Marlowe; oldglory; Luke FReeman
Fox says that President Bush is saying that the FBI says they believe there was a bomb on board.
543 posted on 11/12/2001 7:04:25 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: P-Marlowe
"If the eyewitnesses are correct about the wing falling off then this was NOT a mechanical failure. The wing is the strongest part of the plane. The fuselage is more likely to fall off the wing. If the wing fell off then it was broken off. This could only be done by a midair collision or a bomb."

Until we get experts on the scene, do we KNOW if it was the entire wing, the tip, one of the horizontal stabilizers, etc., etc.,??

If somehow the plane exceeded Vne (as the pilots tried to recover) and the wing was damaged by fire/debris/whatever, it could fail.

Bear in mind I FEAR it was an explosion, but I am not ready to believe it was more than mechanical at this point.

Just my opinion.

561 posted on 11/12/2001 7:06:03 AM PST by Blueflag
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To: P-Marlowe
If the eyewitnesses are correct about the wing falling off then this was NOT a mechanical failure. The wing is the strongest part of the plane. The fuselage is more likely to fall off the wing. If the wing fell off then it was broken off. This could only be done by a midair collision or a bomb.

Wrong on about four counts.

#1. Early eyewitness testimony is the least reliable evidence in any investigation.

#2. There is no "strongest part of the plane." Each part is designed to do a job, within certain stress and load ranges. The wing SPAR is very strong. It connects the two wings and transfers the load and weight to and from the fuselage to and from the wings.

#3. No wing, or any other part "falls off." Detatchment has a cause. It can be breakage, a lose screw, metal fatigue leading to fracture, etc, airload overload, over loading the aircraft is manouvers, etc. Nothing "falls off." There is a reason for everything.

Fuselages do not fall off wings, nor do wings fall off fuselages. They may seperate and if they do, plane will crash, but there is no "falling off." <#4> There are numerous reasons a wing spar and therefore wing will fail causing total loss of A/C. The disintegration of the first stage impeller disk on an engine, and failure of the containment shroud is the most likely, especiually considering engine placement on Airbus 300.

A midair or bomb are very unlikely causess. They are certainly not the only reason A/C would crash.

609 posted on 11/12/2001 7:12:58 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: P-Marlowe
If the eyewitnesses are correct about the wing falling off then this was NOT a mechanical failure. The wing is the strongest part of the plane. The fuselage is more likely to fall off the wing. If the wing fell off then it was broken off. This could only be done by a midair collision or a bomb.

Wrong on about four counts.

#1. Early eyewitness testimony is the least reliable evidence in any investigation.

#2. There is no "strongest part of the plane." Each part is designed to do a job, within certain stress and load ranges. The wing SPAR is very strong. It connects the two wings and transfers the load and weight to and from the fuselage to and from the wings.

#3. No wing, or any other part "falls off." Detatchment has a cause. It can be breakage, a lose screw, metal fatigue leading to fracture, etc, airload overload, over loading the aircraft is manouvers, etc. Nothing "falls off." There is a reason for everything.

Fuselages do not fall off wings, nor do wings fall off fuselages. They may seperate and if they do, plane will crash, but there is no "falling off."

#4 There are numerous reasons a wing spar and therefore wing will fail causing total loss of A/C. The disintegration of the first stage impeller disk on an engine, and failure of the containment shroud resulting in foreign object penetration of the wing spar is the most likely, especiually considering engine placement on Airbus 300.

A midair or bomb are very unlikely causess. They are certainly not the only reason A/C would crash.

613 posted on 11/12/2001 7:13:58 AM PST by MindBender26
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