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The last week's article contained a condemnation of the principle of national self-determination by someone painfully familiar with today's ethnic struggles:

Defense of Liberty: Attila In a Boeing

This week, let's look into the libertarian theory on the subject.

1 posted on 11/11/2001 8:01:05 AM PST by annalex
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Gavrilo Archduke Gavrilo

Yalta

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Happy Armistice Day

Gavrilo Princip; Archduke Ferdinand leaving the Sarajevo City Hall; Gavrilo Princip arrested; Yalta Conference, February 1945; SFOR soldiers guard Sarajevo's Lateiner (a.k.a. Princip) Bridge in 1999.

2 posted on 11/11/2001 8:08:42 AM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
In a fast skim of the article, I got the impression that Ralph may be more of an anarchist than a libertarian.
3 posted on 11/11/2001 8:55:28 AM PST by tpaine
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To: annalex
You will always be grouped together with other individuals. So it might as well be with people with whom you have something in common. You may be sovereign in your own mind and person, but that's not always recognized by others and leaves a lot of questions unanswered.

It's true that there's been a lot of violence attached to the idea of national self-determination in the 20th Century. It's also impossible to satisfy everyone's desire for a state of one's own. But I would point out that the empires that the nationalists were in revolt against were themselves oppressive usurpers.

The article raises a lot of questions. If laws have to be made and taxes have to be collected (assumptions the author would reject, but that should be considered), isn't it better that they be collected locally? Won't localities know better what people want? What about the secession-mania of the rockwellites? What about the basic assumptions of the author? There are plenty of people who rightly or wrongly call rights-based individualism into question. One can imagine them applying a similar analysis to the author's own assumptions of individual sovereignty. What kind of world does the author envision? Is the world of sovereign individuals ultimately a world without cultural differences? Is it itself an "empire"?

12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:52 PM PST by x
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To: annalex
Bump
To read later
23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:29 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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The next thread: Defense of Liberty: Foreign Policy and Natural Law
28 posted on 11/19/2001 11:06:30 AM PST by annalex
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