[tomahawk]

Wow, if this is true, it looks like we'll be paying a return visit to Baghdad, this time to finish the job.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

bump

[jwfiv]

I believe we've been given our marching orders. Let's roll.

There can be no doubt about Iraq's involvement in this...he and bin pigfeces are like Charlie Manson, inducing others to do the deed while they sit on their cushions and enjoy the chaos.

Evil is as evil does.

Sodomosama, the evil twins, will be doin' the towel-head rag on the other side of the River Styx soon enough.

I think I'll be doin' a little dance myself, celebrating their exit from this world.

[okie01]

Wait a minute!
Aren't CNN and the Washington Post still claiming that bin Laden and "right wing extremists" are solely to blame?

[rebdov]

"British Ministers have responded to this prospect with 'horror', arguing that an attack on Saddam Hussein would cause terrible civilian casualties and cement anti-Western anger across Middle East. "

I am always amazed by the folks with terminal buckwheats who are so afraid of anti-Western anger. Wake up, gentlemen. No matter what you do or say they will hate you. They hate the west because the west represents civilization. If you are part of civilization then you are a valid target. They hate you and they train their children to hate you.

The Muslims have been in training for hundreds of years against the west. They call Christians: Crusaders (there is a widely used Arabic phrase for this that escapes me at the moment. I hope some alert Freeper will remind me of the term.). It is not an accidental choice. They are still in crusades mode. You cannot defeat the religion, the best that you can hope for is to contain it.

[Sabertooth]

Senior US intelligence sources say the CIA has 'credible information' that in the spring of this year, at least two other members of the hijacking team (besides Atta) also met known Iraqi intelligence agents outside the United States. They are believed to be Atta's closest associates and co-leaders, Marwan al-Shehri and Ziad Jarrah, the other two members of the 'German cell ' who lived with Atta in Hamburg in the late 1990s.

growl!

[Clinton's a rapist]

Wow, real journalism! Mandatory reading.

[Nogbad]

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[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

IMPORTANT READ PING

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

I'd be interested in hearing your comments.
You have a good grasp of the overall situation.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

comments?

[Clinton's a rapist]

'You should think of this thing as a spectrum: with zero Iraqi involvement at one end, and 100 per cent Iraqi direction and control at the other. The scenario we now find most plausible is somewhere in the middle range - significant Iraqi assistance and some involvement.'

What this neglects is that Saddam Hussein, in contrast to al-Qaeda, is completely exposed to US retaliation. Unless one believes that Saddam is suicidal, there really isn't much of a spectrum of possibilities here: either Saddam had only the most tangential, almost accidental involvement in 9/11, insufficient to provoke a US response, or he is fully calling the shots and has his own controls in place to deter our retaliation. Ask yourself which possibility better fits the observed facts to date.

[ijk]

What is wrong with this country? Ever since Vietnam (and during that conflict) we have been slowly losing our backbone. We constantly look for simple, clean political solutions to problems that can only be resolved with force.

We shouldn't even be debating this!

Iraq, Syria, Cuba, Libya, North Korea...all of them, should be on the short list. There is ample evidence that all of these governments have had a hand in this to some degree or another. And their governments should be removed by force. Anything less is appeasment that is only going to get us in more trouble later.

[Lion's Cub]

One of the best posts I've read in a long time!

Apparently no one read this conclusion:

At worst, the anti-terrorist coalition would currently be bombing the wrong country. At best, the world would see that some of President Bush's closest advisers - his father, Powell and Vice President Dick Cheney, to name but three - made a catastrophic error in 1991, when they ended the Gulf war without toppling Saddam.

This is not good news.

Tex, the idea that we are bombing the wrong country is ludicrous, and clearly repudiated by the rest of the article. Al-Qaeda and bin-Laden are up to their eyeballs in this. By taking them out first, we make victory in Iraq easier, since they can't be sending reinforcements to Hussein. We may have to stabilize some other countries around Iraq first before we take on Hussein.

As for not finishing him off the first time, that remains debatable. If Toon hadn't dropped the ball, we might not be facing this mess.

[aristeides]

The part about Atta and al Ani together planning an attack on Radio Free Europe in Prague is confirmed by an article in yesterday's Washington Post, Czech Leader: Atta Plotted Radio Free Europe Attack . The Washington Post article names as source Czech Prime Minister Milos Zeman, and also says that Colin Powell was surprised by Zeman's information.

Thanks, by the way, for an excellent post.

[Rocko]

Bump.

[Rocko]

Bump.

[FReethesheeples]

Even if Iraq had not direct connection whhatsoever to the 9/11 attacks, 9/11/01 makes it ABSOLUTLEY IMPERATIVE that Iraq/Saddam be exterminated.

Otherwise,

1) the terrorists will think they can get away with murder,

2) They Middle Eastern "Bad Guys" are tribal, and will have no respect for the U.S.,

3) Saddam will (attempt to) assassinate Geo. W. Bush, given the blood feud he has with GHWB, and

4) Saddam WILL use his NUCLEAR capabilities against the U.S. as they become more mature, inevitably.(!!)

P.S. This is a widely-held view at HIGH levels of the USG and among knowledgable/THINKING military-foreign policy experts in and out of the Government.

[Kermit]

Rush Bump

This is the article Rush is discussing today.