[Lent]

In the Muslim world Jews never suffered anything like the atrocities inflicted on them by Christian Europe over the centuries, including the holocaust in this century. It was in Christendom that the Jews were branded as killers of God and made to pay for it through one pogrom after another. Even when the enemy was Muslims, Europe always included the Jews as "collateral damage." The first Crusade was launched by the massacre of thousands of Jews in Europe, with this mischievous rationalization: "We have set out to march a long way to fight the enemies of God in the East, and behold before our very eyes are his worst foes, the Jews. They must be dealt with first. [Cohn, Norman. The Pursuit of the Millennium. Quoted in Bamber Gascoigne, The Christians (London: Jonathan Cape, 1977), 113.]

This is false in so many ways that I think, Aske15, as a Catholic you should not let this claim stand. All the way from the treatment of Jews to the Crusades it is based on the author's distorted Islamic historical perceptions. I think it wise you address this issue and dispel it because the author has lost enormous credibility in these statements alone. Of course, maybe you don't want to salvage his credibility.

[MHGinTN]

The central problem appears to be the lack of will to peacefully coexist with other religions. This characteristic is pervasive in Islam, not just the Wahhabiesque sects. Islam will never be able to assimilate the notion of coexistence; the mere notion of choice to follow allah or convert to some other religion and coexist is alien. The Islamic urge to purge or submit is the central totem in Islamic faith. Such a tendency is anti-societal when the world is trying to achieve peaceful coexistence where individuals have the right to whatever faith they choose to follow as long as it is tolerant and can coexist in peace with other faiths.

Radicalization is the future of Islam (radicalization being the perspective we non-Muslims would have of their strict beliefs). Were it not so, the leaders of various sects would have waited for shear demographics to conquer the world ... the multiplication of pairs of Islamic faithful points toward Islamic population as the most dominant; world control under Islam would have been a fact within fifty to seventy-five years by mere reproduction in Muslim households (unrestrained by our 'enlightened' abortion madness), while the Western societies birth rates declined precipitously.

[dennisw]

I am not good on any religious doctrines and theories. Especially Muslim and (sorry) Christian. I have basic understanding only. I know enough that Islam hates Jews and Christians though sometimes it has not been as bad as now. Now that they have the oil weapon and the "Islamic bomb"

I do know enough that Islam is bad news and is a maniacal expansionist force that threatens Israel and other nations and peoples. All Askel5 is doing is trying to allow us to "understand" them better. Same old, same old, crap about better understanding savages and delusional sunstruck idiots from the 3rd world Muslim or not. Just not my cup of tea.