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Finally, an America Hater
Lew Rockwell ^ | 11/9/01 | Lew Rockwell

Posted on 11/09/2001 1:41:17 AM PST by Ada Coddington

Finally, an America Hater
by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

Bring up US foreign policy to a warhawk, point out that the terrorists have specifically named US policy in Muslim lands as the reason for their desire to kill, and the response is always the same: you are blaming the victim, which is America, and exonerating the guilty.

This is nonsense! To say that the wife killed the husband to get the insurance money isn’t to blame the husband for being insured. To say the robber held up a bank to get the money isn’t to say that it’s the bank’s fault for keeping money there. As Gene Callahan tirelessly points out, establishing a motive is essential to proving guilt. It doesn’t exonerate; it convicts.

So let’s talk motive. It’s a fact that the terrorist actions and continuing threats are a direct response to US troops in Saudi Arabia, trade sanctions against Iraq, and the perception that the US approves of the military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Anyone who pays attention to the news, and understands anything about the region, knew that these policies spelled trouble even before bin Laden announced it.

To take the next step in the libertarian argument requires that we make judgments about whether the policies that inspired the attacks are justified. Even independently of the attacks, the US can and should change these policies because they are bad, period. If by our doing so, potential terrorists no longer feel inspired to poison people and hijack planes, that’s all to the good.

Hence, the neoconservative claim that we libertarians are just blaming America for the crimes of others doesn’t fly. Even in the case of most leftists who oppose this war, they are not "blaming America" but identifying US government policies as a motive force. It’s a simple matter of observing that folks don’t like it, for example, when 1 million people die as a result of sanctions you impose.

For weeks, I’ve looked in vain for someone to actually say the things that the neocons accuse us of saying: that America deserved the attacks, that this is the price we pay for being such a sinful country, that the American way of life needed to get a good wallop. We’ve all looked and looked for actual America haters among those who oppose the US war against Afghanistan.

Where are the people who are saying such things? Certainly no one on LRC. I’ve yet to see any major spokesman for peace promote such absurdities. Does anyone who thinks like that actually exist, apart from a few drugged-up antiglobalism protestors or professors in minority studies programs?

Much to my amazement, a person who actually does fit the neocon stereotype has at last shown his face. It is none other than our old friend Bill Clinton.

Speaking at Georgetown University, Clinton indulged in a flight of fancy about all the things America has done to call down these attacks on us. In particular he named the fact that "we were founded as a nation that practiced slavery, and slaves quite frequently were killed even though they were innocent."

If that isn’t bad enough: "this country once looked the other way when a significant number of native Americans were dispossessed and killed to get their land or their mineral rights or because they were thought of as less than fully human."

Finally the clincher: "And we are still paying a price today."

So there you have it: a blame America Firster, someone who actually believes that the attacks are the price we pay for our original sin, as well as events a century and a half old. When you hear this kind of drivel, it’s enough to get the old patriotic juices flowing. It tempts one to observe that this man, this former president of the United States, secretly hates this country. That sure would explain much about the Clinton regime.

Or perhaps it’s not a psychological state at all. It’s all the more gripping when you realize that the real reason for the attacks were the policies carried out under his administration. So he more than anyone else would have a good reason for wanting to distract people from events of the last 10 years to events of ancient history–events that no one can control now.

Clinton is pleased to promote the hatred of America, especially among college students, so long as it averts people’s eyes from the US government’s actions in the 1990s. So there we have the motive for the first genuine case of anti-Americanism I’ve seen. Wouldn’t you know that it comes from the mouth of the former president, whom historians will probably someday consider "near great" for his policies that got us into this war.

When Jerry Falwell said the attacks might be God’s judgment for Americans’ sins of abortion, the whole world came crashing down on him. That hasn’t happened and won’t happen to Clinton. The most the Wall Street Journal could muster was a pathetic: "wartime is hardly the time for an American politician to be harping on America's shortcomings."

The problem isn’t the harping as such; it’s Clinton’s theory itself, that the US was born in sin, and terror is the price we pay. I’m willing to bet that the hijackers didn’t care a flip about slavery or Indian policies, and Clinton doesn’t believe they did. His is a metaphysical argument, an anti-American argument. We are paying the price for Bill Clinton and those like him.

November 9, 2001

Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr., is president of the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama, and editor of LewRockwell.com.


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Bill Clinton is a bad person but he is not an idiot. For some reason his political sense prompted him to make those remarks.
1 posted on 11/09/2001 1:41:17 AM PST by Ada Coddington (ACoddington@compuserve.com)
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To: Ada Coddington
He has ZERO " political sense " about 9/11/01 , he IS an idiot, and so is everyone who is in any way connected to LewRockwell ; from te writers, to anyone who posts this smarmy drivel.
2 posted on 11/09/2001 1:46:44 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
he IS an idiot, and so is everyone who is in any way connected to LewRockwell

Actually, that is a painfully kind description of anyone connected to LewRockwell, or that other pesthole - Antiwar.com.

5 posted on 11/09/2001 1:52:49 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Ada Coddington
Could it be that criminals want to attack the US but say they do as a pretext of past slavery or today's ISrael and Taiwan? Get a grip man, it's the US they targeted, not Israel, not Taiwan, let alone California outlawing affirmative action in public services.
7 posted on 11/09/2001 1:58:14 AM PST by lavaroise
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Did you bother to read the article? Did you realize who it was about? Or did you simply take the opportunity to rant?
8 posted on 11/09/2001 2:01:53 AM PST by Architect
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To: lavaroise
The Clinton's have ALWAYS been a HATER of America!!
9 posted on 11/09/2001 2:05:52 AM PST by Ann Archy
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To: lavaroise
What's this nonsense about affirmative action and Taiwan? It's every bit as absurd as Clinton's garbage. American support of Israeli state terrorism is real, though, and the bin Laden cites it as one of his prime motives. And in case you haven't noticed, they do attack Israel as well.

I think you're the one who is in need of a grip.

10 posted on 11/09/2001 2:09:39 AM PST by Architect
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To: nopardons
He has ZERO " political sense " about 9/11/01 , he IS an idiot, and so is everyone who is in any way connected to LewRockwell ; from te writers, to anyone who posts this smarmy drivel.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you thing of it?":-)

11 posted on 11/09/2001 2:15:50 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: Ada Coddington
"whom historians will probably someday consider "near great""

Only the historians that stand something to gain by making that claim. Or the terminally stupid ones.

One other question I have to ask: Why is it that this Lew Rockwell $hit always gets posted late, late, at night when fewer of us are here? Do you think that the flames will be less intense at this hour, or is it a personal thrill getting his swill posted on a conservative forum? (i.e. Like putting graffitti on the White House?)

After all, by the time most everyone else gets here in the morning, Lew's lunacy will be off the main page. Only those with their preferences set to view 250 posts will see it - if they bother to scroll down that far.

"You have now entered a different place. A place where common American values of hard work, honesty, integrity, and patriotism have somehow been skewed horribly to the left. You have entered "The Lew Rockwell Zone"</Rod Serling>

13 posted on 11/09/2001 2:19:42 AM PST by 11B3
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To: Ada Coddington
There is absolutely NO justification for the mass slaughter of 5,000 innocents. Period. End of statement. Anyone who puts the slightest shred of legitimacy into the act is joining the barbarians.
14 posted on 11/09/2001 2:21:22 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Ada Coddington
Re: "this country once looked the other way when a significant number of native Americans were dispossessed and killed to get their land or their mineral rights or because they were thought of as less than fully human." .......B.Clintoon

Not true Billy

Our courageous forefathers looked them right in the eye and shot them dead.

15 posted on 11/09/2001 2:22:03 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: Ada Coddington
An open letter to Democrats and all other liberals . . .

At this moment in time, George W. Bush is the correct president for this once free repuiblic !!! So stop second-guessing yourself. You know what you know . . . you know ??? The inner tickling that you sense is your own highest truth. It will serve you well. It's telling you to support president George W. Bush !!!

The backfire comes when you deny or discount it. Yes indeed, take in information from all sides, yet trust that inner tickling, knowing that you . . . and you alone . . . know what's best for you !!! If all day long you pine to paint, then paint, for that is what you must do. If you ache to walk beside the ocean, find a way to get there !!!

And if you, like so many millions of Americans, want to again move this country in the direction of unblemished truth, unfettered light and genuine prosperity . . . then do so !!! Because without complete trust in that inner tickle, you are left to rust at the feet of liberal democrats and their socialistic absurdities !!!

Therefore . . . Go . . . Now . . . Relieve your inner tickle . . . SUPPORT PRSIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH !!!

19 posted on 11/09/2001 2:31:09 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: Ada Coddington
"For weeks, I’ve looked in vain for someone to actually say the things that the neocons accuse us of saying: that America deserved the attacks, that this is the price we pay for being such a sinful country, that the American way of life needed to get a good wallop."

This is a strawman of an argument. I know of no serious person who would claim that LewRockwelldotcom has called American a "sinful country" deserving of a "good wallop" because of these sins. Such a claim would be ludicrous these claims include an assumption of God who punishes sinners for their sins. It would be very difficult to square this assumption with other libertarian policies.

I do know of many who have claimed lewrockwelldotcom has blamed America for these attacks. In fact, this article does just that by saying the terrorist attacks were the result of mistaken US policies that should be changed because they are "bad".

Perhaps the most amusing part of this article is Lew Rockwell's rather lame attempt to equate Jerry Falwell and Bill Clinton. While this might be clever, it is nothing more than an attempt to prove guilt by association. It is also an attempt to change the subject from LewRockwells justification of the terrorist attacks to Bill Clinton or Jerry Falwell.

If Lew Rockwell is having difficulty in finding someone who blames America, then I suggest he look no further than his own website that includes "The Vampire State", an aritcle that claims US policies will result in millions of deaths in Afghanistan. Then he might also examine another article also on his web site "Dam" that claims that US bombing of a dam will cause famine and wide spread desolation.

20 posted on 11/09/2001 2:33:14 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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