Posted on 11/08/2001 8:14:41 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
Sorry, no transcript as of now. Video only. Worth the effort to view.
The video provides a look at this compound in the foothills above Fresno, CA. Pre 9-11, a Fresn County Sheriffs deputy was killed by a member of this peaceful Islamic community. The suspect (in the beginning trial phase still) broke into a empty nearby foothill home, when deputies arrived this guy was lying in the hallway floor with a rifle, and killed one deputy. This video is the first investigative reporting we have had on this Islamic community. The trail leads to FUQRA, a known terrorist group operating all over the world, and have several communities such as this one all over the USA. Here is an excerpt from an article of the Sacramento Bee...
(Published Sept. 30, 2001)
There is no evidence that the Fresno group has been involved in any terrorist activities, officials say.
The group, according to a federal source, is part of Fuqra, an organization whose name means "poverty" in Arabic and which has had compounds in several U.S. areas.
Some Fuqra members in other areas have been implicated in past years in domestic terrorist attacks, and the State Department has labeled the group, known formally as Jamaat ul-Fuqra, as "an Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence."
The group south of Fresno operates an 1,800-acre compound called the International Quranic Open University, which sits on the former site of the drug addiction recovery cult Synanon.
The compound, a series of mobile homes shaded by trees, also serves as a U-Haul rentals location. A resident there last week refused to talk to a reporter, referring inquiries to a Visalia attorney who did not respond to a message seeking information.
Authorities have been studying the compound since the Aug. 21 slaying of Fresno County Sheriff's Deputy Erik Telen. Officials charged 20-year-old Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah with murder in the killing, apparently stemming from a botched burglary at a rural home.
James Oppliger, Fresno County's chief deputy district attorney, said the suspect claimed he had been living at the compound seeking psychiatric treatment from the Quranic university.
Oppliger said he since has begun studying the group and its possible connections to other organizations.
(Zavia Books) is the bookstore for this Islamic compound. It is called Koranic Open University. Note the books being sold. One of them is prefaced by ( Sheik Mubarik Ali Shah Jilani [Gilani]) a known terrorist. The trail leads from Baladullah (actually Miramonte, CA) to Pakistan, where Sheik Gilani lives. He is the head of Fuqra.
Also, isn't this group's charter school that has received about 1 million $'s in Fresno. I believe that it is supposed to get close to 4 million $'s next year!
The charter school is interesting. I didn't think about this before. Why is the Fresno school district paying for a charter school in Tulare County? The boundary is very close, less than a mile, but it is definately in Tulare County.
What is it you think should be done?
Now, as to what Jihad Honny is saying he may just may have had some true information or he may have been fed a line. I certainly do question the willingness of Al Qaeda to engage in such an operation. Yes PC will kill a whole lot of Americans as a part of this war but given the current reality of just how entrenched it is I do not see any alternative.
Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
Sorry, I got carried away. What was I thinking about. With the PC/Diversity driven law enforcement in California and most of the nation, their only job is bring body bags to murder scenes after a murder.
Thanks to the ACLU and others more concerned about the rights of criminals, law enforcement now must wait until a terrible crime happens before they can even do a half a$$ed PC investigation! Investigations to prevent crimes are illegal in America!
As harpseal would say to the good people in a 50 mile radius of this Islamic village, stay armed and be safe or whatever he says!
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - yorktown
OK, you've vented. Now answer the question. It is a serious question. What would you have them do? If you can't come up with a reasonable answer then you see the problem.
We can't arrest people for what they might do. There's nothing new in that. It is up to the authorities to keep tabs on these people, to gather intelligence, to find out what threats they represent and what they are up to. They may be doing all that right now, they aren't going to tell us. The sarcasm and ranting are out of place. You are expecting something that can't be done. You want instant answers, people rounded up, whatever, and it doesn't work that way.
Since they operate a school ( university ?) how about getting an enrollment list, current and past, and check for out of date visas. Of course, they have no foreign students attending -right? Which agency does that and how does one get a check like that started?
Fresno Bee, The (CA) August 23, 2001 Section: MAIN NEWS
Four other officers would brave gunfire, as many as 100 rounds of ammunition, to get Telen out of an isolated home.
Abdullah finally surrendered at 12:31 a.m, after a 5 1/2-hour standoff. When the gunman emerged, deputies and SWAT team members were stunned. The 130-pound Abdullah looked like a 16-year-old boy.
Sources inside the Sheriff's Department say the number of rounds fired and the way Abdullah lay flat on the ground awaiting Telen to round the corner may indicate firearm training.
In this mountainous area of eastern Fresno County where people are used to shooting rattlesnakes and hunting is a common hobby, it was not unusual that the home Abdullah broke into had a cache of guns. What was unusual is how well he knew how to use the weapons. What remains unanswered is why he did.
Sheriff's officials said they think they know why Abdullah, a New York native, was in the area, but they did not provide details Wednesday. A source familiar with the investigation said they believe Abdullah knew people in the area.
Telen rounded a corner. Abdullah was waiting and shot him immediately. Stalker returned fire and retreated, according to standard tactics and training. Once outside, Stalker realized Telen was still in the house. The most galvanizing words in law enforcement went out over the radio: "Officer down." (end of clip)
The article was rather lengthy . The above is the part that raises question about Baladullah and the connection to Ramadan . Investigators could not get information from the Baladullah residents. What did they have to hide and why is the investigation of the questionable camp activities appearing to be discontinued.
Where to go next?
In the interim it might well be significant to find out who is ordering the investigation curtailed.
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
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