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To: Teacher317; CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; Victoria Delsoul...
*Hanging my head in shame that I have to stick up for my fellow teachers in more and more stories like this one!*

You ought to.

Teachers with half an ounce of common sense continually come to the defense of those who have none. You're part of the problem, sorry to say.

Our kids aren't experiments that teachers should have the luxury of making mistakes on. We have an example of collective stupidity here by three teachers who ought to be named, shamed, and fired. But you defend them?

Reminds me of the constant warnings by teachers about the horrors of children being taught by "unceredentialed teachers."

Funny, but when they give competency tests (about 8th grade graduation level) to credentialed teachers, generally a third fail, and the other two-thirds defend them. What's the problem here? You have tenure, so speaking out for excellence and high standards of behavior shouldn't be a big risk.

The priority of teaching ought to be knowledgable and literate students. However, the conclusion that the public inevitably draws from positions such as the one you're taking is that the priority of teachers...

is teachers.


57 posted on 11/08/2001 7:10:48 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
You pinged me to a non-funny reply about strip volleyball? Ok, which girl are you trying to impress with your maturity? :-D
70 posted on 11/08/2001 7:21:19 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sabertooth
Our kids aren't experiments that teachers should have the luxury of making mistakes on.

They are if you send them to school. Don't send them to public school.

77 posted on 11/08/2001 7:27:14 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Sabertooth
you ought to research some of the FReeper-teacher replies that are out there. Most of us whole-heartedly agree. Here's one example of my thoughts on the age-old "how to inmrove education" question.

Our kids aren't experiments that teachers should have the luxury of making mistakes on.

Guess what... they happen. Show me ONE occupational category of professionals who deal with the thoughts, emotions, and behaviors of humans (I'll even throw in adults to help you out!) who have a 100% success rate. (I have psychologists in mind, here.) I realize our kids are precious, and we ought to do our best for them, and idiot teachers ought to be removed ASAP... but begging for perfection won't help a thing. Even home-school teacher/parents make mistakes, and they know their charges quite a bit better than I ever will!

However, the conclusion that the public inevitably draws from positions such as the one you're taking is that the priority of teachers... is teachers.

Yeah, well, the public opinion polls of Clinton were good for years, so that ought to tell you something about the quality of public opinion. =^) Also, I refuse to berate anyone for having self-preservation and self-promotion as parts of their behavioral make-up... those traits are a significant part what make capitalism and America great. The children are also a HUGE priority for teachers, and it is rather crass of you to imply otherwise.... and who ever heard of a rude Sabre-Tooth?!? =^)

91 posted on 11/08/2001 7:35:58 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Sabertooth
Tha answer is simple:

Home School

And if that isn't possible,

Christian School

We need to keep good kids out of the hands of the public school system.

93 posted on 11/08/2001 7:37:52 AM PST by Alas
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To: Sabertooth
What's the problem here? You have tenure

You answered your own question!-)

104 posted on 11/08/2001 7:43:31 AM PST by beowolf
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To: Sabertooth
During the drill, held Sept. 21 at the Gene Pike Middle School gym, two girls took their shirts off and one girl may have taken off her shorts, district officials said.

Three female coaches supervised the 22 eighth-graders while they played the game, which required that team members take off shoes, socks, kneepads or hair accessories if a player missed a serve. After a few girls took it upon themselves to undress further, the drill was immediately stopped, administrators said.

Obviously, the students didn't need further encouragement from their coaches!!

193 posted on 11/08/2001 9:08:14 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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