Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#4)

www.sandiegouniontribune.com. ^ | November 7, 2001 | By Dana Littlefield

[MistyCA]

well i invite them into my house.

Thank you. You are right. Next time I have the opportunity I will do the same.

[usmcobra]

I jumped you?
if you call pointing out your anger and ignorance jumping on you then I guess I did.
I don't have to resort to "rotflmao" or dropping profane verbage to make my point,
I learned from the best.
A Sargeant Major that chewed my backside without raising his voice above a whisper, and uttering without a single expletive.

[Aura Of The Blade]

the irish are all from the third (wars) where im from

I don't care where your candy ass is from.

Learn punctuation and grammar. What liberal board did you originate from?

[Cultural Jihad]

Just for the record, it was in thread 3 post #153 where you said NAMMARINE harbored hate.
He defended his honor in the now-deleted post #155,
and you followed up with this thread 3 post #162 where you accused him of being a troll.

That's why I was surprised to read your thread 4 post #149 where you said
"I was doing the look see before I suggested that you might be a heartless son of a gun! why are you so freaked over that?"

You need to ask him why?

[DebtsPaid]

Let's see...you can't be Oliver Stone since he was in the Army. But you definitely fit the liberal image.

[Aura Of The Blade]

COME KICK IT TOUGH GUY

Am I supposed to be impressed with the large case?

Unfortunately for you, your goron lost the election. Try salon.com

[MistyCA]

Enough already! Look, let's just put it this way...we are posting on this thread to think of a way to help Northcut. That is the objective and is, hopefully, constructive. Now, there is nothing constructive about belittling our efforts. There is nothing constructive about going off subject and flinging insults around (not just you, but any of us who have been doing that). So, please, let's drop it and carry on!

[MistyCA]

Oh Heck! I had almost forgotten about you, but you are baaaacck!

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

"There really isn't a place for people to congregate," said City Manager Bob Semple. "It wasn't meant to be used for people to gather there."

This is the kicker. Now I'm REALLY mad as he!!!!!!!!

Since when, Mr. "Simple-minded" Semple, isn't a flag pole on PUBLIC PROPERTY with a US FLAG ON IT NOT a place for the public to gather??????!!!!!!!

My long-distance phone bill is gonna go up tomorrow - big time!!!!!!

[Cultural Jihad]

Yes, Ma'am!

[usmcobra]

Flame war huh? well not here and certainly not on this thread.
However I could suggest The board for that.
One where you could unload on me to your hearts content with out the fear of having your comments ripped from the thread.

I saw the hate that many have seen in your posts towards Mr Northcut and his dog,
and I saw that you didn't read what was written about what happened to him,
as you continue to gloss over that which doesn't serve your needs
you know the little things like inconsistencies in what was in the cities' e-mail and the phone conversations posted here
and why it took so long to figure out that the dog was dangerous and had bitten someone!
Little things that you don't want to deal with, or acknowledge.

[FallGuy]

How about taking it to your freep mail,this thread is not about you.It's about a brother.If you don't want him WE do.If you don't care about him , WE do and his dog T.J.

[usmcobra]

"NAMMARINE used the basic troll tactic of attacking the subject of the article without any possible defence for his attack
That is to invite an angry responces from those on the thread directed at him.
The mark of an amatuer troll,"
Well I guess I did:)
His "defence" of his honor was profane, and hardly more than three words other then quoting me.
Do you deny that?
For the record, I had nothing to do with the post being pulled.
I have heard worst and far more elaborate profanity with the brim of a Parris Island Drill Instructor's Campaign hat pressed against my forehead and spittle flying in my face for being out of step.

So based on today's revelations, what is your solution to Mr. Northcut's problem?
And do believe that his dog should be put to death as NAMMARINE does?

[MistyCA]

You know, I have been thinking and I realize that in another situation I would more than likely be agreeing with you. I resent the heck out of the liberal politics that has allowed some of our towns to be overrun by panhandlers and mentally ill that should be in a facility that can provide for their care, but are not because "they have rights too!" I understand where you are coming from and I know that this is one of those situations where us right wingers look like we are being inconsistent and tolerant when it is convenient. And I guess that is right.

The bottom line here is that this person, Mr. Northcut, is a Veteran. He has earned the right to be different in many of our eyes. But it isn't really that. I think all of us realize that mentally ill folks also need to be protected and taken care of. Unfortunately those liberals who believe that putting people in facilities is not fair have created an intolerable situation in our streets. Many of the vets in the street probably also need some kind of mental health attention and we can not force them to get it either. Why is Northcut any different? Maybe just because these guys consider him like they do a brother. He is the one they are willing to go to battle for because he is a brother.

We really do need to look a little deeper here. But maybe we need to do it one person at a time. Maybe it seems like hypocrisy to say that we want Northcut and TJ to go ahead and live outside, but I don't think it is. It is simply easier to relate to his plight and understand his choice has nothing to do with being a derelict.

I had an uncle (great uncle) who was a real character. He loved panning for gold and riding the rails. He was, for all intents and purposes, a hobo. He hurt no one but loved the outdoors and the freedoms it provided. He loved not having the complications of a roof over his head. Back then, of course, there were camps across the countryside where all the hobos would congregate and live their lives. There was even a hobo village along the railroad tracks here in Santa Barbara! But someone came along and decided that they needed to be run out of town. The village that had been there for years was destroyed. I think part of the reason is that people began to confuse that outdoor hobo lifestyle of choice with the sudden influx of mentally ill people roaming the streets because they truly were unable to function. There is a difference. The hobo villages had structure and rules.

Just thinking.

[Snow Bunny]

NAMMARINE....... you said....."Oh please, this kind of story doesn't get my sympathy, I don't care if he is a vet, he needs to act more responsibly and obey the law. If I had a dog that routinely bit people, while I defended it, I would be arrested and my dog taken from me and put to sleep."

If you didn't have any friends that is exactly what would happen. It just happens that RT Northcut has thousands of friends who have taken the time to email and phone these City officials to let them know he is not just a 'wacky Vet' with no friends.

[MistyCA]

Hi bunny...nice post.