Posted on 11/06/2001 11:28:40 AM PST by Jack Barbara
Sheriff's Deputy Shot; Suspect Killed
A sheriff's deputy in eastern Arizona is hospitalized in critical condition after being shot while trying to arrest a suspect. The suspect was in turn shot and killed.
The confrontation occurred in the town of Eager around midnight.
Department of Public Safety spokesman Officer Steve Volden says the Apache County sheriff's deputy was shot twice in the head. He was airlifted to a Phoenix hospital.
His name wasn't immediately released.
Volden says the deputy was among several officers who were attempting to arrest 58-year-old William Milton Cooper of Eagar.
Volden says Cooper had been armed with a handgun. He says details of the shooting will be released later at a news conference. DPS was called in to investigating the shooting.
While you're at it - you might as well take up a belief in every cock-eyed conspiracy theory, UFO and abduction story ever dreamed up and printed.
Don't tell me what to believe. You are no master of my body or mind and I'll believe as I choose!
Meanwhile, the are those of us who live in the objective, real world - a world ruled by the laws of physics, the laws of reason and the laws of the Good Book
I live in the same real, objective world, despite what you may think. If I didn't, you would be defying the very laws of physics, reason and God which you purport to believe in. Not very objective of you.
BTW...Are you calling me an athiest? Why do you wish to impugn me with slights?
and not the world dreampt up by a half-baked loon who fought the law ...
Was it a just law. Oh, I'm sorry...you meant policemen. Or did you? the word "law" has many connotations. Could you elucidate on exactly what "law" you mean? The written law, cops...?
Base your existance (sic) on the example he set - and you'll wind up proceeding down the same path to insanity and 'KOOK-DOM'.
I base my existence on my own basis, thank you.
How do you know he was insane? Did you analyze him? Are you a shrink?
Militia broadcaster killed by law officers
Mark Shaffer
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 06, 2001 08:02:00
EAGAR - One of the country's most influential militia radio broadcasters was killed early today in a hail of gunfire when law officers tried to arrest him on a warrant accusing him of aggravated assault.
William Milton Cooper, 58, whose apocalyptic, constitutionalist shortwave radio programs were a major influence on Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, was shot to death after Cooper shot and critically wounded an Apache County sheriff's deputy who had tried to arrest him, police said.
The officer, Robert Marinez, 40, was listed in critical condition at St Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix.
Apache County Sheriff Brian Hounshell said Marinez, a former Marine and Persian Gulf War veteran, was shot twice in the head by what was believed to be a .45-caliber pistol.
The officer was expected to survive, Hounshell said, after undergoing two hours of surgery this morning. Marinez's skull was fractured, and surgeons removed bone fragments from near his brain, the sheriff said.
Cooper had been indicted on federal charges of failing to pay taxes from 1992 to 1994 and became a fugitive after failing to appear for a U.S. District Court hearing in Phoenix three years ago.
Scott Garms, Eagar's police chief, said he had urged federal law officers to stay away from Cooper's two-story compound, high on a mesa overlooking Round Valley, because militia group members do not recognize the legitimacy of federal law officers.
"We certainly didn't want to make him a martyr," Garms said.
The police chief said the effort to arrest Cooper became a local law enforcement matter in July after Cooper ordered a local man to leave land that Cooper did not own atop the mesa and then followed the man about two miles to his home. Cooper then pulled a gun and pointed it at the man's face, Garms said. That resulted in a warrant for Cooper's arrest.
Seventeen officers were involved in the operation, which started at 11:40 p.m. Monday, Garms and Hounshell said.
Garms said a group of undercover officers in a pickup truck pretended to be "people just acting normal up there at night" in a ruse to draw Cooper out of his house to adjoining property 200 yards away. But Cooper surprised the officers by driving, not walking, to them, and he never left the vehicle during a verbal altercation.
During that confrontation, a second undercover police vehicle drove to Cooper's property line and blocked the road, Garms said. But on the way back to his house, Cooper drove off the side of the road and tried to run over sheriff's Sgt. Steve Brown, who dived out of the way, Hounshell said.
Cooper then parked his vehicle in front of his house, and Marinez followed him toward his front door while admonishing him to surrender, Hounshell said. Near the door, Cooper turned and fired an undetermined number of rounds at Marinez, who was wearing a bulletproof vest but no helmet, Hounshell said, adding that officers had not seen Cooper's handgun before he fired it.
At that point, another sheriff's deputy who had been at the side of Cooper's home, approached Cooper and opened fire. Hounshell said he did not know where or how many times Cooper was struck, saying a state Department of Public Safety shooting-review team had been dispatched to the site. Hounshell declined to identify the officer.
Cooper had said numerous times on his radio show, Hour of the Time, and posted on his Web site, that he had been under siege by "Nazi jackbooted thugs." He also had solicited donations for what he said was his fight against the U.S. government, which he said was responsible for the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
"He had vowed that he would not be taken alive," said Tom McCombs, a spokesman for the U.S. Marshal's Service in Phoenix.
Garms said Cooper's radio show had been off the air for about a month because of a shortage of money. But in one of his last programs, Garms said, Cooper had accused the federal government of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York City.
Glenn Jacobs, a Round Valley newspaper publisher and friend of Cooper, said he didn't think the police operation was unjustified.
"I think Bill just went nuts. He was looking for martyrdom anyway and swore he would never surrender," Jacobs said. "They had him dead to rights on the aggravated assault."
Jacobs also said that if the sheriff's deputies had allowed Cooper to enter his house, "they would have had a bloodbath on their hands."
"He kept an AK-47 just inside his front door by a magazine rack," Jacobs said.
A spokesman for a group that tracks militias said the shooting wasn't surprising given Cooper's history. In addition to his show, he was known within the militia movement for an influential book called Behold a Pale Horse, in which he wrote about global elites and conspiracies.
"For more than 3 1/2 years, he had been holed up in his house in Eagar, threatening to kill police officers and federal agents," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center. "He was talked about as a guy who talked crazy and made a lot of threats. The reality is that people like him are frequently exceedingly dangerous."
James Nichols, brother of Oklahoma bombing co-defendant Terry Nichols, said during a 1996 court proceeding that McVeigh had been a regular listener of Cooper's programs in the months leading up to the Murrah bombing.
Nelson Udall, an Eagar repairman and friend of Cooper, also said that McVeigh had paid a personal visit to Cooper two months before the bombing, when Cooper was broadcasting his show from his home at the time in St. Johns.
Cooper, who said he served in the Navy in intelligence operations aboard submarines, also was heavily involved in discussions of unidentified flying objects on his radio programs.
I understand where you are coming from... but I think "William Cooper is Dead" is better Journalism -- and perhaps cold enough to reach a few people with a message.
I believe first in God, the same God in which my ancestors believed. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he is my saviour. Second, I believe in the Constitution of the Republic of the United States of America, without interpretation, as it was written and meant to work. I have given my sacred oath "to protect and defend the Consititution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic." I intend to fulfill that oath. Third, I believe in the family unit and, in particular, my family unit. I have sworn that I will give my life, if it is required, in defense of God, the Constitution, or my family. Fourth, I believe that any man without principles that he is ready and willing to die for at any given moment is already dead and is of no use or consequence whatsoever.
William Cooper
August 3, 1990
Camp Verde, Arizona
Probably agreed to work for the NWO while he was in the Gulf. Was probably part of the NWO then, because everyone knows that no Marine would become part of the NWO. Just another jack-booted thug who got what he deserved.
(sarcasm off)
Sad...ten years ago people on this board would have been cheering him for doing his job. Now, to some of them, he's scum for doing his job.
"This is the age of deception. We are engaged in an information war. Links will take you to many other websites containing varying degrees of personal belief, religious dogma, truth, lies, misinformation, and disinformation. We urge you to practice due diligence in your quest for truth." (Warnings credited to William Cooper)
When they get their "details" straight enough to put out a press release on this....the account above will be history. Stay tuned...
17 deputy dogs? Give me a break.
"About 95% of all subjects and guests on his show are frauds, fantasies, fakes, con-artists, and escaped mental patients pedaling bullshit by the barrel. He IS a change agent for the new world order." - William Cooper
Garms' statement is patently false.
...But in one of his last programs, Garms said, Cooper had accused the federal government of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York City.
Cooper may have implied that, but I'm not aware of any open accusation. The broadcast(s) in question will have to be reviewed on that point.
Chapter 12 "The Secret Government"
- The Origion , Identity, and Purpose of MJ-12 May 23, 1989
Updated November 21, 1990
page 196
PERSPECTIVE
("*" and capitalization are mine for emphasis - haffast)
Many sources of information were used to research this chapter. I origionally wrote this piece as a research paper. It was first delivered at the MUFON Symposium on July 2, 1989, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Most of this knowledge comes directly from, or is a result of my own research into the TOP SECRET/MAJIC material which I saw and read between the years of 1970 and 1973 as a member of the Intelligence Briefing team of the Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet. Since some of this information was derived from sources that I cannot divulge for obvious reasons, and from published sources which *I CANNOT VOUCH FOR*, this chapter must be termed a *HYPOTHESIS.* I firmly believe that *IF* aliens are real, this is the true nature of the Beast. It is the only scenario that has been able to bind all the diverse elements. It is the only scenario that answers all the questions and places the various fundamental mysteries in an arena that makes sense. It is the only explanation which shows the chronology of events and demonstrates that the chronologies, when assembled, match perfectly. The bulk of this I believe to be true *IF* the material that I viewed in the Navy is authentic. As for the rest, I DO NOT KNOW, and that is why this paper *MUST* be termed a *HYPOTHESIS*. Most historic and current available evidence supports this *HYPOTHESIS*.
Last paragraph of chapter, page 235:
"*IF* the documentation that I viewed while I was in Naval Intelligence is true, then what you have just read is *probably* closer to the truth than anything ever written. *IF* extraterrestrials are a hoax, then what you just read is exactly what the Illuminati wants you to believe. I can assure you beyond any shadow of a a doubt that even if aliens are not real, the technology IS REAL. Antigravity craft exist and human pilots fly them. I and millions of others have seen them. They are metal; they are machines;they come in different shapes and sizes; and they are obviously intelligently guided."
...and Mr. Cooper would have nothing to do with him and sent him away.
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