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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#3)
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam ^ | 11/5/01 | SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

Posted on 11/05/2001 6:36:52 PM PST by B4Ranch

Robert Thomas Northcut is a decorated Vietnam Veteran. In the years that have passed since he was blown up in a delta ambush he spent his time in and out of Veteran's hospitals.

Ten years ago he walked out of the VA hospital never to look back. He found his way to Solana Beach, California where he has lived outside, as a homeless man, never panhandling a dime.

Each day he walks the streets with his trusty German Shepherd, ``TJ,'' given to him by caring townfolks. He always stops to greet people and pat children on their heads as they pet his dog and look in wonderment at this shell of a man, forever wounded serving his country in the war in Vietnam. His Purple Heart went the way of all his belongings when he decided to stop living in a VA hospital and get out and enjoy the beauty of the California coastline with ``TJ.''

His long shaggy Australian bush coat and Crocodile Dundee hat distinguish him for the hero he is as he is seen searching in the morning shadows looking for food.

For ten years Thomas has been the street ambassador of Solana Beach.

When he heard the tragedy of ``9/11'' on his little portable radio he was instantly moved to action. He now had a purpose, a mission, a reason to reestablish his identity. He went to the little traffic island of the City which houses the stone war memorial next to the large American flag pole. He took up residence next to the Memorial, resting his head each night on it to protect it from what he felt was a possible terrorist attack. Each night he lowered the flag and each day raised it to half mast.

Neighbors brought food for him and his dog and brought him newspapers to keep up to date.

It had all come back to him....a purpose, a vision, an identity. He was now back in the line of duty. Every small part helped. His was to raise the flag and to protect the Monument.

Early one morning after he raised the flag, the workmen arrived. As he saluted, they pounded into the ground the two foot square No Trespassing sign. Moments later they called the Sheriff's department and held Thomas there until they arrived.

The city code enforcer ordered a citation to be issued for Thomas Northcut for trespassing. Thomas crumpled it into his pocket and went back to his duties, guarding the monument.

The code enforcer patiently waited for the court appearance date to pass then asked that the arrest warrant be issued.

Thomas and his dog awoke to the angry sounds of deputies as they pulled him from the ground, his hat falling by the side of the Monument and dragged him away in one direction screaming for his dog as they dragged ``TJ'' away to an animal control truck.

Thomas was handcuffed and taken to jail to await arraignment. ``TJ'' was taken to the pound where if unclaimed, he will be put to death in a matter of weeks.

This story did not take place in 1975. It was Thursday, October 26, 2001. Thomas, unable to post the bond, waited in the lockup and had to be sedated because of panic attacks which resulted from his incarceration. Meanwhile, his dog, ``TJ'' has lost his appetite longing for his owner. And the flag just sits at half mast.

``How soon we forget,'' said Sam Georges, an attorney, U.S. Air Force veteran and friend of Northcut's who is trying to get people to help for the jailed vet get released and see that he's reunited with his dog, and in the process sensitize the city. Georges is also president of the internationally famous Anthony Robbins Companies.

``It's pretty obvious that a time like this, we need to show our respect to patriotic Americans to those who have fought to protect our freedoms. Especially those who have worn the uniform of our armed forces and sacrificed for our country,'' said Stephen Jaffe, president Jaffe & Company, a crisis management communications firm in based in Los Angeles.

This morning, Jennifer Lynch, Esq., an attorney living in Vista who heard about the Northcut case from friends, appeared, pro bono, on his behalf in Superior Court. She noted that Northcut has served several days in jail for essentially protecting a Monument to those who had died defending our country during a former war. Northcut remained silent but the Judge, a distinguished veteran himself, saw the sad irony of the case and dismissed it for ``time served.''

``Now there remains only one more injustice to be corrected,'' Lynch stated, ``and that's for Thomas to be reunited with his dog, 'TJ.''' Friends of Northcut have agreed to take him to the pound where ``TJ'' is being held tomorrow. ``If the city officials and the system doesn't get in the way, Thomas and 'TJ' will be together again, greeting the folks in Solana Beach and enjoying the freedom he gave so much of himself to protect,'' Lynch added.

For further information, please contact Jennifer Lynch, Esq., +1-760-643-4113; or Sam Georges, Esq., +1-619-417-1408; or Stephen Jaffe of Jaffe & Co., Inc., +1-310-275-7327.

SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

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To: NAMMARINE
It would help for you to brush up on your spelling. You are making claims that have no foundation in fact. Why?
161 posted on 11/06/2001 3:40:37 PM PST by MistyCA
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Well wasn't that was special!

Truth be known, I consider Myself a "Troll™", a well meaning one but a troll none the less.
Confused? I don't troll here, unlike some people,
I come here to get the fastest and most accurate display of links and news,
and sometime post when the mood strikes me
Or if the thread touches my heart as this one did!
I don't raid Boards like many trolls do,
generally I read more and post less!
NAMMARINE used the basic troll tactic of attacking the subject of the article without any possible defence for his attack
That is to invite an angry responces from those on the thread directed at him.
The mark of an amatuer troll,
Me I don't resort to such tactics!
Like I said I consider myself a good Troll™,
I go for the funny bone,
I like to make others laugh
sometime by acting the fool
and sometimes by making angry people meltdown by turning their angry words against them.
Of course, his meltdown was marked by a personal profane verbal attack
and that shows the mark of a true amatuer.
Troll that is!

162 posted on 11/06/2001 4:03:31 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: NAMMARINE
NAMMARINE, I posted earlier in this thread that Solana Beach was my hometown for 25 years. That's one reason this strikes "home" for me. Here are 2 more. One, I have a dear veteran friend who is "homeless by choice". He's a productive, full-time employee and good citizen who, like Northcut, is unable to live indoors. By coincidence, he happens to live in the hills east of Solana Beach.

Two, I had a bro-in-law who was never homeless, but was unable to work and spent over a decade in various treatment programs for PTSS. There was nothing that could help him. A few years ago, he committed suicide by drowning himself in a bathtub. By coincidence he lived near Solana Beach, too.

Neither of these vets had addiction disorders, but it wouldn't have mattered if they had. We all owe both of these guys, and every vet like them. How dare you publicly assisinate Northcut ("derelict" "drunkard" "wannabe") with absolutely NO proof. You perpetrate the worst stereotype of disabled vets this country has known. As my story of just 2 vets I've known shows, there IS no stereotype! If you think Northcut is a "fraud"...prove it or STFU.

163 posted on 11/06/2001 4:09:53 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: NAMMARINE
this guy and many derelicts like him need help and do not belong on the streets.

Thanks for posting some common sense around this thread.

164 posted on 11/06/2001 4:23:57 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
You have been asked politely by others to take you sanctimonious bullsh*t to some other thread. I will not be so polite. You intent has been to disrupt the threads about Northcut before by trying to instigate a flame war and hitting the abuse button. Kindly stay off these threads.
165 posted on 11/06/2001 4:41:21 PM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: lonevoice
Good retort!
167 posted on 11/06/2001 4:47:31 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Scuttlebutt
Is there any news on the free mobile home he turned down? Is it too late for the CEO friend of his to post his bail? Somehow we have to help Mr. Northcut get reunited with his semi-vicious dog. Hang in there, TJ!
168 posted on 11/06/2001 4:49:10 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Bail is not needed. He is out of jail
I have sent a couple of ideas to Jennifer regarding the mobile home. We will be in touch in the morning.
Phone calls and emails are the pressure we are using to get then reunited.
169 posted on 11/06/2001 4:55:36 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Scuttlebutt
"You (sic) intent has been to ..."

Don't quit your day job thinking Miss Cleo's gonna hire you.

170 posted on 11/06/2001 4:57:12 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: B4Ranch
Bail is not needed. He is out of jail.

From the press release, which says bail WAS needed:

Thomas, unable to post the bond, waited in the lockup and had to be sedated because of panic attacks which resulted from his incarceration.
Where was his free phone call to his CEO lawyer friend? Has anyone asked the city about that?
171 posted on 11/06/2001 5:03:01 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in
Did I mention that most trolls use multiple nicks to prop up their arguments?
Patting themselves on the back so to speak!
172 posted on 11/06/2001 5:04:47 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: B4Ranch
Phone calls and emails are the pressure we are using to get then reunited.

A neat idea, not apparently limited to leftist pressure politics anymore. Keep me posted on how the interstate sending of rude, menacing letters over a local police issue actually improve anyone's life and make conservatives look good.

173 posted on 11/06/2001 5:10:50 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: usmcobra
Did I mention that most trolls use multiple nicks to prop up their arguments?

And your irrational statement has what to do with the debate over laws against public vagrancy? Please try to stay on topic.

174 posted on 11/06/2001 5:14:57 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Simple I shoot holes in NAMMARINE's Argument
and you show up to props him up
Go figure!
175 posted on 11/06/2001 5:23:43 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: Cultural Jihad; NAMMARINE
knock if off. or face suspension or banning.
176 posted on 11/06/2001 5:34:02 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Cultural Jihad
By the way didn't you create a thread for discussion on that topic
The topic of this one has more to do with actually doing something for Mr Northcut and his dog then the state of vagrancy in the nation,
perhaps you should tend to your own topic thread!
177 posted on 11/06/2001 5:34:49 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: usmcobra
Simple I shoot holes in NAMMARINE's Argument and you show up to props him up Go figure!

Here I am waiting to rationally debate you, and you bring up a silly game. While I remember sending NAMMARINE an attaboy for bringing rationality to an otherwise hysterical audience here, I missed the holes you allege to have shot. To play your own silly game, I'd have to know if you were posting under a different name, and that's why I missed the holes you supposedly shot.

And your ... interesting albeit immaterial ... theory of alternating nicks has helped Thomas and TJ how exactly?

178 posted on 11/06/2001 5:39:07 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Admin Moderator
If it comes to that, can you also delete the "braying" that has disrupted the continuity of this thread? TIA
179 posted on 11/06/2001 5:52:50 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: Cultural Jihad
You have no reasonable debate
you've only tried to bait posters here by trying to sidetrack them from doing something for him and his dog.
What is this man to you?
Nothing!
What is his dog to you?
Nothing!
What is his plight to you?
Nothing!
if you cared one iota about the plight of the homeless or of Vets, you would realize that there are no quick fixes
No golden bullet to solve all their problems!
but you can approach those problems in the same manner that one eats an elephant
one bite at a time.
today it is a man and his dog,
tomorrow? who knows!
but it is still one bite at a time!
180 posted on 11/06/2001 5:58:31 PM PST by usmcobra
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