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To: rstevens; B4Ranch; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; redrock; mystomachisturning; ALOHA RONNIE; Calico
rstevens.......Thank you for responding to this thread.To answer your post to me let me do it this way.This is what I said in part of my post # 56 on this thread.

This is only one of the sentences but it apply's to what you said about some VA hospitals are good....

...."OK now take a look at the Vietnam veteran going to the VA hospital....OK.... some are good ones BUT many are bad!!! ".......

All the men in my family have served , Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force and some have had good experiences with VA hopsitals and some bad. But the bad ones are so outrages that it is UNAmerican how they are treated.

Also I have visited VA hospitals across Ameirca just to visit the veterans in them that cannot go home ,or are too sick to leave. Mostly just being a listener, holding their hand, earning their trust and showing them someone cares in a true whole hearted way with no strings attached. They slowly open up and share things that stay in my heart in their confidence of trust.

Many, most of the Vietnam vets have lived accompolished lives . I agree with you, but this thread is about a man, a veteran, a hero , that needs our help in anyway we can . I could never turn my back on a veteran of any war if there was something I could do. There is no mention of what you posted about 'frying their brains with drugs' about this man, this hero. To bring other factors into the equation that have not been written about is wrong, but that is my opinion and feeling about this.

I cannot count how many vets I have met. Thousands and thousands and each is an individual person and yet all brothers.For me a brother reaches out to another brother before condeming him as a drug addict or having a fried brain especially when it is not mentioned.

People need to remember something, war is to break things and many times it breaks the inner souls of certain kinds of men and women, some it strengthens others.Just as in life away from war, some people are the poets the sensitive that see a blade of grass as it gently sways in the breeze, others see only a yard that needs mowing. Some live by facts and numbers and others write the love songs and paint the glorious sunsets across a deep blue ocean.

Take these different kinds of lives, different sensitivies and put them in a war, in battle and add to that turning each of them into a killing machine to keep America free and to defend themselves and their brothers in battle.

Some will handle it better then others, some will have nightmares and others will just have a beer.Some will come back almost untouched and only made stronger in knowing who they are as a man, others come back and need more to know others care and to be allowed to live a more quiet life.

I have a gardner , a Vietnam Vet, Marine. He is very brillant, but he cannot stand the thought of working inside a building.His job in the Vietnam war was one that kept him in situations that were crapped and inside the earth in tight tunnels. Is he mentally ill?? Heavens no, he took a deep look into himself and saw how he could survive when he came home. It was outdoors.for years he would sleep on the patio of his apt. just to be outside. He is a hero and gets treated like a king when he comes to our home every week.He is humble and sweet and quiet and a very hard worker.To me he is just as accompolished as a man that is CEO of a company.

Brothers, veterans do not end being brothers when a war ends. The brotherhood of veterans goes beyond a war ending,it crosses the miles between the States across the vast land of America. It is in the hearts of every Veteran to reach out and help his brother.

This man needs his brothers now and any of us that are supportive of our miitary and our veterans. He has not even asked for our help,he is fighting a battle and is surrounded and all we have to do is answer the call of our hearts for a brother that has fought the good fight.


230 posted on 11/05/2001 3:59:17 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
"Thousands and thousands and each is an individual person and yet all brothers."


233 posted on 11/05/2001 4:15:52 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Snow Bunny
No words could ever say how much my fellow Brothers and Sisters appreciate what you do for us.
Plus the gratitude that we have for what you did during the Viet Nam war,
going there twice with Bob Hope and the USO tour.

God has blessed us with a Guardian Angel like you.
235 posted on 11/05/2001 4:22:26 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Snow Bunny
Great post Bunny! It's about a spirit that lives on it's own strength and will never die! It's about an understanding between "brothers" who only need to look at each other to understand what lies beneath the silence. It's about family members who cared to understand the sacrifice and care not to compromise it.

I just got a call back from a very overwhelmed Lucy from the City of Solano Beach. We had quite a long and nice conversation which included her giving me more insight into her feelings about the situation with Mr Northcut and TJ.

Lucy seemed very nice and was trying to explain to me that there was another side of the story that had not been talked about in the press story we are all responding to. She said that the dog did demonstrate a very protective nature that could represent a threat to others who approached him. She also said that Mr. Northcut kept the dog tied up at all times, even when he slept, at which time he would link the leash to his own leg or arm.

I suggested to Lucy that maybe she could take the opportunity to contact the VFW (the town is VERY pro Veteran) and try to turn the situation into something beneficial. I even suggested that they might get some positive publicity by hiring Mr. Northcut (assuming he is capable) to take care of the flags or clean the grounds, etc. She seemed very willing to consider that there might be something here that could work out, although the town's main objective was to get Mr. Northcut and TJ to move on.

Lucy also said that what ever was to happen to TJ is out of her hands. The Animal Control people have complete jurisdiction over that aspect of the situation. Anyhow, we got their attention and the thing to do next might be to contact animal control.

239 posted on 11/05/2001 5:05:44 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Snow Bunny
...VETS need ANGELS the Most...
240 posted on 11/05/2001 5:13:03 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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