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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#2)
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam ^ | 01/10/30 | SOURCE: Jaffe & Co., Inc., Strategic Media and Crisis Management

Posted on 11/04/2001 5:54:46 AM PST by B4Ranch

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To: mystomachisturning
There needs to be a "Butt kickin'" in Soalana Beach!
121 posted on 11/04/2001 10:42:37 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Snow Bunny; mystomachisturning
Please read Post 112 by mystomachisturning
Looks like you have a "ranting partner"
122 posted on 11/04/2001 10:44:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Snow Bunny
Speaking of vets having to wait hours for an appointment, let me tell you a quick story about my brother's most recent open heart surgery.

He was sent down to Wadsworth in West Los Angeles because of a blood infection which had attacked his heart valve for the 3rd time. He was airlifted to Palo Alto and was very lucky to have a world class surgeon (finally) perform a replacement of his valve and a massive re-section of his heart which had been eaten away by infection. I need to mention that the facilities in Palo Alto are wonderful! I was very impressed. The rooms were like normal hospital rooms, not at all like the old dreary facilities in Los Angeles or Long Beach.

This surgery, although it was done by a better doctor in a better facility, was not like the others inasmuch as my brother was not coming around and seemed to be deteriorating. We would try to talk to him and could barely hear him. Days after the surgery he was unable to get up and had to be on oxygen. But the surgeons were talking about sending him home. I had flashbacks of my uncle who was sent home 10 days after open heart surgery in spite of the fact that he had pneumonia and no one at home to help him. Sure enough, 10 days lapsed and Palo Alto loaded my brother onto a commercial plane and sent him back to Wadsworth (w/o oxygen) to be released to home from there.

I was worried sick because there was no way my brother was well. I called Wadsworth to make sure he had arrived ok and was told they had no record of him. I was frantic and called and worked my way from one department to another until someone finally went out and found my brother in a wheelchair in the hallway! he had been there for hours! He was then transferred into intensive care where they discovered a massive infection that had been overlooked before his release from Palo Alto. He was once again loaded on a plane (this time a private jet with a nurse to accompany him) and sent back to Palo Alto. This was done at the request of the surgeon in Palo Alto who had apparently done the surgery and then more or less turned my brother's care over to the interns.

My brother was given top notch priority care when he returned to Palo Alto and he began to respond and do well after that. But the fact is it took a major screw up on their part before they were willing to give him the time his illness required. I think the VA tries to go by the same B.S. guidelines that the HMO's are using. If you don't fit the scenario established by the book, forget it.

My brother has always been able to be his own advocate but it often took every ounce of energy that he had to do it. He has alot of medical/chemistry knowledge. Most people are not armed with adequate knowledge to be their own advocate, and if they do not have another intelligent person who can keep up with the doctors, they can very often be at a severe disadvantage. This is unfortunately true with HMO care that many of us are forced to have as well. It is pathetic! A disabled vet or a person who works their entire life and pays for medical insurance should be secure in the knowledge that they will be well cared for. It simply doesn't happen that way, and especially not in California!

123 posted on 11/04/2001 11:12:27 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
LOL....Oh, I can rant! Boy, can I ever!!! :)
124 posted on 11/04/2001 11:15:28 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: B4Ranch
An inner silent bump of knowing and appreciating your touching words.


Thank you

125 posted on 11/04/2001 11:40:46 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
My peers include many countless veterans, but only those who likewise offered the ultimate sacrifice so that others can live in a country free from boorish questioners.
126 posted on 11/04/2001 11:41:23 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: mystomachisturning
BUMP BUMP

Bumped to Glenn Beck, the radio talk guy who loves to expose this kind of stupidity. He'd enjoy knowing he is mentioned on FR in a positive way, LOL.

link to Glenn Beck's site

you can check to see if he has an affiliate where you are -- it is one weird program!

127 posted on 11/04/2001 11:43:25 PM PST by womanvet
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To: Cultural Jihad; B4Ranch; COB1; Snow Bunny; redrock
"My peers include many countless veterans,"

You just can't bring yourself to admit that you have never served your country,
yet you know so much about veterans and what is right or wrong for them.
Dismissed (that's military talk that means you can leave this thread now.)
128 posted on 11/04/2001 11:52:37 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Calico
Welcome to FR. There are many veterans here at Free Republic. We also have troops that lurk here as well as their families that have joined FR as well.

It is wonderful here and the friends you will make will be very special. I love that we meet each others hearts and souls as we post, that is who we really are anyway.

It has been very nice to meet you and I look forward to seeing you in many of the threads.
Thank you for your kindness and for serving this country.

129 posted on 11/04/2001 11:54:01 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: mystomachisturning
HI good to see you.You make a difference being here. Thank you so much.
130 posted on 11/04/2001 11:56:50 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: mystomachisturning
Your post #112. Thank you !
131 posted on 11/05/2001 12:00:11 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: mystomachisturning
Your so right. I have been to visit so many VA hospitals across America and it breaks my heart to see our our Veterans are treated. They should have first class treatment in every way.
Thank you so much for being here.

Our Veterans are the true Heroes of America not some jock or rock star or celebrity.

132 posted on 11/05/2001 12:09:29 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Cultural Jihad
"I'm not too concerned over his well-being."

Yer callous words sicken me...MUD

133 posted on 11/05/2001 12:09:57 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: womanvet
Thanks!
134 posted on 11/05/2001 12:11:11 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: Snow Bunny; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thank you both so much for your comments. Dad was a Marine in Viet Nam. He's no longer with us here, but I know he's lurking somewhere. CJ's out of it. It's not mental illness. It's nightly nightmares that come back to haunt. Nightmares about what's creepin' in the jungle after you and nightmares about how you're treated after comin' home. I know because Dad had those nightmares. He wasn't crazy. As bad as it was he would've done it again. No questions. Thanks for keepin' the memories burnin'. Oh, and Cultural Jihad, No thanks to you.
135 posted on 11/05/2001 12:24:47 AM PST by BigBlueJon
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To: Snow Bunny
You are right. Our military absolutely should have the best. And they should not have to come home from war only to find themselves back in war with the system to get decent benefits.

BTW, the DAV is a wonderful organization.

136 posted on 11/05/2001 12:26:07 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: BigBlueJon
"Dad was a Marine in Viet Nam. He's no longer with us here"
SALUTE in his memory
137 posted on 11/05/2001 12:40:05 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Snow Bunny
Thank God for the Vietnam Veteran!!!!

Amen!

138 posted on 11/05/2001 1:08:01 AM PST by ST.LOUIE1
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To: Snow Bunny
That was PERFECT! Thank you so much for putting into words exactly how I think and feel.
140 posted on 11/05/2001 4:18:43 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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