ISRAEL DISCLOSES ITS NUCLEAR OPTION

MENL ^ | 11/03/2001 | MENL

[aruanan]

You're welcome. My pleasure!

[Patria One]

For clarification~ I was quoting Simcha who evidently is a racist.

[Patria One]

They are hardly more important that the Bible. The point is that there was no Israel until 1948, but the land has been called Palestine for a long, long time. You really should read the thread so you get 'context' of a conversation.

The Palestinians were THERE_ The Zionists immigrated from Europe to colonize inhabited lands.

[Patria One]

See what Jesus said in Luke 19: 43.. . and do try to remember that the Romans leveled Jerusalem in 70 AD and most of the Jews left.

There was no Israeli language, no Israeli country, No Israeli currency etc for nearly 2000 years.. until the European refugees from Christian persecution decided to colonize Palestine in the 1900s.

[timestax]

bttt

[Anamensis]

I did read the thread. And from what I can see, you aren't making much of a case. There WERE Jews in Palestine when the Brits won it from the Turks in WWI you know. Plenty of Jews. You act like it was a country that the UN took and gave over to strangers. Not at all. The area was full of Muslims, Jews, and Christians. Both Muslims and Jews were clamouring for control when it became obvious that the Brits were going to pull out. They had to give it to someone. Why should the Muslims have gotten it over the Jews? They were BOTH THERE! And as for this constant cry about European imports, you know, an AWFUL lot of those so-called Palestinians are imports from Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. What about that?

[timestax]

Yeah, and there are thousands of miles of land in Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Iran, etc. for these so called "Palestinians" to make their "State"!!!

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"Palestinians need to get lost!!

[winslow]

Your posts are so devoid of fact it is incredible.
Even after the diaspora the Israelis have had a significant presence in the land.

Israeli language and culture has never gone away, where is the "palestinian" language or culture? When did the group of Arabs who refer to themselves as Palestinians ever control the country anyway?

Approximately 70% of the land availible for purchase was bought up by Israelis prior to 1948. The Arabs started emmigrating to Israel en masse because they thought they could get a free lunch at Israels expense.The arab population in the mid 19th century was only 250,000 and they lived under terrible conditions. When the Israelis started to return to their land which they had purchased and spent more money on developing the Arabs moved in also to see what they could grab.

[Anamensis]

These are good points, and why do the pro-Pals always disappear when they come up? Whenever any of the following points are mentioned, they never have an answer. And I do actually want an answer to the following:

1.) Why were the Jews not justified in keeping what they won in 1967 when it was the Arabs who attacked first?

2.) Why are transplants from Jordan who call themselves "Palestinian" somehow more valid than Jews from Europe who call themselves "Israeli"?

3.) Why do they always act like Arabs were pushed off their land when lots of it was swamp land that the Jews drained and cultivated, or bought legally pre-1948?

4.) The Arabs have turned down every previous offer to create a Palestinian state. Why?

5.) Why do they call Israel "oppressive" when a million muslim Arabs have Israeli citizenship and even those considered "refugees" have more freedom than citizens of Arab states around them?

I'd sure like some of the pro-Pals to address these questions.

[timestax]

They don't like those questions of yours.

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REMEMBER the Amalekites!!

Remember Haman in the Book of Esther!!!!

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REMEMBER The Amalikites!!

[CommiesOut]

Absolutely, brother.
Without the Amalikites there is no future.

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REMEMBER what happened to Haman in the Book of Esther!!

Don't try to wipe out the Jewish race.

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Remember the Amalekites!!

[Patria One]

Why don't you do some research on the Census in Palestine beginning about 1920? You are mouthing all the Zionist myths without taking a look at the facts.

If the Jews had a continuous presense in Palestine, where is evidence of same? There was no Hebrew spoken.

[Anamensis]

You don't have to speak Hebrew to be Jewish. Hebrew is a recently revived languge. So, is it your contention that there were no Jews in that area prior to 1920? Care to tell us where you get that info? Care to answer any of my earlier questions?

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Remember what happened to Haman in the Book of Esther!!!

and Remember the Amalekites!!

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Remember what happened to Haman in the Book of Esther!!!

and Remember the Amalekites!!

Have a Nice Day