Simple answer is, you cannot. Scum like Malik just keep spouting the party line (in this case, Israel and Jews are the problem) and won't discuss anything or give a straight answer to any question, no matter how direct. If you attempt to keep the conversation on the facts, they'll just keep blowing smoke and dance around the facts, never deviating from whatever mantra sums up their rationale. Really a waste of time to have these people on and it enlightens no one. A shouting match is the best you can hope for because you'll never get a real discussion. Hannity and Colmes did the best they could; Malik is dangerous.