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12,000-Year-Old Human Hair DNA
Earth Files ^ | 10-30-2001 | Linda Moulton Howe

Posted on 10/30/2001 10:13:42 AM PST by blam

Please click on the site to view this article. They have some pretty serious sounding, 'Don't reproduce' verbage on that page. Thanks.


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DNA does not match any humans alive today. (Now, I wonder if it matches the human DNA from Australian that claims the same) The original Americans are now extinct?
1 posted on 10/30/2001 10:13:42 AM PST by blam
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To: RightWhale; sawsalimb; SurferDoc; Bernard Marx; VadeRetro
FYI.
2 posted on 10/30/2001 10:14:59 AM PST by blam
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It is not clear from reading the article how the investigators ever got the notion that these were "human" hairs in the first place.
3 posted on 10/30/2001 10:16:36 AM PST by error99
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Professor Orr has even considered the possibility that the black hairs could come from a hominoid such as the mysterious Sasquatch long associated with the northwest.

Ohhhhhhkay. I thought bigfoot was a brunette?

4 posted on 10/30/2001 10:18:21 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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Interesting, but it might only mean that some human subgroups have gone extinct or diffused into much larger populations. I'd be surprised if that had never occurred.
6 posted on 10/30/2001 10:22:59 AM PST by VadeRetro
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"You can identify human hair, forensic criminologist types, can identify human hair from a single strand because of the granules and color and all that kind of stuff. You can distinguish human hair from all other hair just from a little piece of follicle."

Doesn't sound overwhelmingly scientific, huh? "Stuff?"

7 posted on 10/30/2001 10:23:55 AM PST by blam
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From an isolated population that died out. They don't say how exactly how different it is from humans that exist today.
8 posted on 10/30/2001 10:25:29 AM PST by ARCADIA
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To: JudyB1938
Bump.
9 posted on 10/30/2001 10:27:26 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Don't get excited, I heard the same thing about OJ's hair samples...
10 posted on 10/30/2001 10:28:16 AM PST by rolling_stone
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Doesn't sound overwhelmingly scientific, huh? "Stuff?"

Stuff - it's not a scientific term. Stuff is a technical term. Everybody knows that.

11 posted on 10/30/2001 10:32:53 AM PST by LTCJ
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To: blam
Yet more possible evidence that the "Native Americans" are carpet baggers just like the Europeans. People need to be very careful before they start playing "We were here first!" games.
12 posted on 10/30/2001 10:34:53 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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IT'S ALMOST AS IF THEY WERE QUICK FROZEN

That's a Linda Moulton Howe quote of Dr Orr. That ties in with the quick-frozen animals in interior Alaska as far as the time scale. It has something to do with the last ice-age, almost as if the earth tipped on its axis and dumped whole geographic regions into arctic cold momentarily.

LMH has a good reputation as a reporter of Fortean-type events.

13 posted on 10/30/2001 10:35:51 AM PST by RightWhale
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I don't know if it is junk science here or not. But the fact that the first "amercians" were killed off or simply replaced by later arrivals. Just as most of what are "Europeans" today were not "native" to their lands several thousands of years ago. This is natural, population migrations must have happened all the time with the local populations getting replaced in the process.

But if the scientist are right and we are all came out of Africa, we here is the US are all "African-Americans". I call those with with dark skin "Americans of recent African decent". ;^)

14 posted on 10/30/2001 10:37:04 AM PST by machman
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To: rolling_stone
it's bigfoot.
15 posted on 10/30/2001 10:38:36 AM PST by stumpy
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From the article:
We found several strands of human hair, long pieces a foot and a half long, black, long pieces of hair.
According to persistent rumors, what they found seems to match Hillary's pubes.
16 posted on 10/30/2001 3:28:44 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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Very interesting. This could mean that the Paleo-Indians are off the hook for causing the extinction of the paleo-horses and other paleo-megafauna.

Is the Woodburn longhaired man/woman/sasquatch any relation to Kennewick Man? The Clintonistas did their best to see to it that Kennewick Man would be buried away and lost to science, but I think the bones are still in someone's safekeeping.

17 posted on 10/30/2001 4:14:06 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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According to persistent rumors, what they found seems to match Hillary's pubes

In the future, could you please hold all such posts like this until well after dinner time? The mere thought of Her Royal Arrogance's nether region is enough to ruin any meal.

18 posted on 10/30/2001 4:14:13 PM PST by longshadow
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To: ARCADIA; blam
Good point. I'd be interested in knowing just how much divergence there is,and how much divergence(or whatever the term is)is normal. I don't know enough about DNA analysis to talk intelligently about it: can anyone point me at some place that gives some basic overviews of the subject?
19 posted on 10/30/2001 4:33:20 PM PST by sawsalimb
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OK, I realize this will probably sound like a stupid question to you science mavens out there, but here goes: If the hair does not match any known human DNA, what makes them think it's human?
20 posted on 10/30/2001 5:25:24 PM PST by white rose
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