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To: Alkhin
I think "old-fashioned British jingoism" expresses the meaning he had in mind pretty well. It's no more perjorative than the other forms he discusses.
7 posted on 10/29/2001 6:50:52 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
Okay, but the definition of jingoism is someone who professes their patriotism loudly and excessively...and I think it is that concept that bothers me, because this definition smacks of thought policing...I mean, someone could be simply saying they love being British, and while anyone else would take that as a natural view of someone born and raised in the UK, another whose sensitivities are slighted by this mere expression would call it excessively braggadocious.

all too often I have run across non-Americans who not only bristle, but bloviate over the fact that I expressed pride in the country of my birth and gave specific reasons why...and I think jingoism is a slam towards those who have the audacity to express that pride. As someone who is proud of her own country, I would not find fault in say, someone from Madagascar expressing great love for that African island. Why would I consider it an insult to hear him brag of it?

The only time *I* would get offended is if they started putting down America without ever having experienced the country. How could I put down Madagascar without having ever been there???

On the same note, I have heard one or two British slam America...that's to be expected considering our historical relationship. But since I am well educated in both my own history and that of Great Britain, the insults and slams do not affect me...because I happen to have such a high opinion of America...and I believe I have the better deal.

I really hate the word 'jingoism.' Nothing more than New Speak for the 1984 era.

10 posted on 10/29/2001 7:06:09 PM PST by Alkhin
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