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To: Media2Powerful
>. It's not invoking the name of a God that bothers them so much as an authoritarian source turning it into an official proclimation.

With all due respect and I don't mean to be rude but have you read the Constitution lately? (And any of our other national documents as well as speeches by all of our former Presidents?) I believe you could call our founding fathers both authoritarian and official. They used the name of God all the time.


I have read the Constitution lately, but I apparently missed the references to "God". The only one I ran across was with reference to the signing where the date was written as being "in the year of our Lord" (as I understand it, a common convention at the time).
There are a two other references regarding religion: one states that no religious test shall be required as a qualification to holding any public office or trust in this country and the other is the First Amendment prohibiting Congress from making any laws respecting the establishment or inhibiting the free excercise of relgion.
There is much debate on the views of the Founding Fathers with respect to religion and government. You could doubtless provide numerous snippets of text from the speeches and writings of several of the founders where the name of God or Christ is invoked (though I understand that there are a few falsified "quotes" of this nature going about) and I could easily respond with an equal number from many of the same people affirming that the rules of religion and Christianity have no place in official government matters.

That's not the point here though. It was asked why anyone would object to the word "God" being invoked in a very generic sense and I offered a possible explanation.
25 posted on 10/29/2001 9:56:58 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
I have seen something in opinion pieces that I don't understand. Hope someone can tell me why this is done.

Why is G-d sometimes used in place of G-d? I do not understand that!

29 posted on 10/29/2001 10:11:03 AM PST by Will_Kansas
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To: Dimensio
Because "God and country" is a remnant of feudalistic and tribalistic mind control techniques, and has nothing to do with real American patriotism.

I posted the excerpt from the DOI in response to this poster's claim of God having nothing to do with real American patriotism. And, for you, another question: How could saying/displaying "God bless America" be misconstrued by any reasonable individual as Congress making a law respecting an establishment of religion?

34 posted on 10/29/2001 10:20:53 AM PST by SubSailor
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