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Israel Finds Radiological Backpack Bomb
UPI via World Net Daily ^ | 26 OCT 2001 | Richard Sale

Posted on 10/26/2001 7:40:05 AM PDT by Lurker

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To: Sabertooth
A U.S. government expert said that the weapon captured by Israel was a backpack device that CIA officials learned about through Russian intelligence agents in place in 1995.

He emphasized it was not a so-called nuclear suitcase bomb.

Backpack bombs have no such codes, but they were also designed for Spetznetz forces and have such an intricate and complex system of activation that the ability of a terrorist to detonate one "would be incredibly limited," according to one U.S. government official.

Thanks for the information.
61 posted on 10/29/2001 9:25:54 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Travis McGee
I think the poluting of the mail system was an unintended/unexpected consequence of sending these letters. Now, that knowledge gained, one might expect a leaking plutonium letter or two since everyone is looking for bacteria. That would be hard to defend against, aye?
62 posted on 10/29/2001 9:54:30 AM PST by blam
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To: Sabertooth
"I frankly can't understand why our Congress hasn't taken the necessary steps to deport all Arab and Moslem non-citizens when the American public supports it, and Congress itself has been attacked with a WMD."

Simple. It might offend them, so we won't do it.

Any other questions?

63 posted on 10/29/2001 10:56:43 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
I know, I know...

But here's the paradox:

Our Congressional cowards are more afraid to offend the sympathizers of our enemies than they are of the very terrorists who attacked them with a biological weapon of mass destruction.

Hold that thought a moment....

...

...

Wild, huh?

Garden variety cowardice I'm accustomed to, but this is truly breathtaking in its lack of perspective.

If they're gonna be cowards, at least they should fear the biggest threat.


64 posted on 10/29/2001 11:09:03 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Lurker
"Israeli security last month arrested a man linked to suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden armed with a radiological backpack bomb"

This is the first I've heard of any major nuclear power having a radiological bomb. Everything I've seen published to date has said that such "dirty bombs" were the exclusive province of third world countries, terrorist organizations, and "lone wolf" terrorists. In other words, the threat of radiological bombs was soley from those who did not have the ability to create a fission weapon.

Now, I am weighing the years of news that said the above on the one hand, against this one report of a Russian-built radiological bomb on the other hand, and it's coming up short.

So, if I look at the current report, I can see a small number of possibilities:

1. The story is as-related; it's true; the Russians created radiological bombs, and no one knew about them, and now, at least one has gotten into the hands of a terrorist.

2. The story has been changed to protect someone, most likely a source -- the bomb is as-described, but it is not from the Russians.

3. The story has been changed, for the purpose of messing with the enemy. IOW, it's agitprop. Either nothing of the sort happened, or the person was caught with something other than what he was described has having.

4. The story has been changed, in order to protect the tender sensibilities of the West, and in order to "maintain the balance of [insert factor here]" -- the person was captured with a Russian backpack fusion bomb, of the type that has been alluded to in the media for several years.

IMO, #1 is the least likely, and #4 is the most likely. #2 & #3 are tossups, but of less probability than #4, and greater probability than #1.

Two cents, do with them as you like.

65 posted on 10/29/2001 11:22:47 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Sabertooth
"Garden variety cowardice I'm accustomed to, but this is truly breathtaking in its lack of perspective.

"If they're gonna be cowards, at least they should fear the biggest threat."

Nothing is infinite except for stupidity.

66 posted on 10/29/2001 11:25:03 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Sabertooth
Virtual Ipecac bump...

[see #65]

67 posted on 10/29/2001 11:26:11 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Travis McGee
I wonder how many more high leverage terror tricks they are waiting to pull?

We discussed this. We are witnessing a ramp up. Hit the media. Create hysteria. Then hit infrastructure on a national level. Then hit health care. Then hit the population. Small, local, and dispersed.

Change tactics. Expect a pathogen change from here. And a MO completely different. Anthrax is so last week.

71 posted on 10/29/2001 10:43:26 PM PST by nunya bidness
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I'm still waiting for the splashy easy stuff, like the gasoline tanker truck driven at 70MPH into the lobby of a major corporate office building, trapping all those above, melting the support steel, and bringing it all down.
72 posted on 10/29/2001 10:49:02 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: blam; Squantos
I think plutonium is way too valuable to expend in this way. Its ability to contaminate vast areas is much overestimated.
73 posted on 10/29/2001 10:50:59 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Lurker
US Congressman says 48 Soviet nukes are unaccounted for:

http://www.unitedstates.com/news/article/623135

and http://laser.to/border

74 posted on 10/29/2001 10:56:16 PM PST by Terrorista Nada
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To: Travis McGee
To be quite honest I think the DOJ is underestimating the terrs. We have witnessed a systematic shutdown of mail.

What will follow is an introduction of a localized release of a recombinant strain of a pathogen that will tax local authorities.

Think about it. They've got us shut down at the federal level. Now is the time to focus on small targets that will cause major damage. While the rest of the country scrambles for Cipro a quiet release of smallpox or Marburg will create a complete shutdown of local health care.

Then the authorities will react by the CDC model of surrounding the affected area and vaccinate within. Containment will create panic and outbreaks will be reported by the minute.

Meanwhile the CDC and USAMRIID will be chasing their tails playing catch up. How many swabs can they make in one day?

75 posted on 10/29/2001 11:01:11 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
Our enemy has been successfull at blurring the line of using WMD, first on 9-11, then with small pricks of anthrax.

At what point do we respond to Bagdad with nukes?

76 posted on 10/29/2001 11:04:47 PM PST by Travis McGee
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At what point do we respond to Bagdad with nukes?

Maybe we won't respond with nukes. Look in to the "Jefferson Project." Or "Clear Vision."

We may respond in kind.

77 posted on 10/29/2001 11:09:11 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
Nations with turd world health care systems should not export bugs.
78 posted on 10/29/2001 11:14:58 PM PST by Travis McGee
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The problem is commerce. Besides ATCC there are over 1500 culture houses that sold strains to the world.

It's conceivable that we may have sold bugs to our enemies over the internet.

More importantly we may have traded with our enemies during peacetime with the very strains that are being unleashed upon us.

Take the time to look in to the JEFFERSON PROJECT and CLEAR VISION. Pine Bluff and Dugway may have played a role in current events. And if they didn't they may yet.

79 posted on 10/29/2001 11:23:41 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Travis McGee
"I think plutonium is way too valuable to expend in this way. Its ability to contaminate vast areas is much overestimated."

When I say plutonium, I actually mean any kind of radioactive waste.

80 posted on 10/30/2001 5:30:15 AM PST by blam
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