Posted on 10/25/2001 7:34:53 PM PDT by Phil V.
U.S. Incarceration Of Five Israelis Sparks Hard Questions Why have five young Israelis been detained for over six weeks in a maximum-security facility in New York on charges of minor immigration violations? Why have their deportation orders, which were issued one month ago, not yet been implemented? Why have the American authorities not taken note of the fact that, according to persons very close to the case, at least one of the five is on the verge of mental collapse? These are just some of the angry questions Jews in Israel are beginning to ask as more details of this bizarre case come to light.
The five, at least one of whom has asked to remain anonymous in order not to alarm his ill father and other ailing relatives, were originally arrested on Sept. 11 on charges relating to the Bin-Laden terrorist attacks. After up to 16 hours of "unpleasant" questioning, the investigators realized that they had made a mistake - but decided to keep the Israelis in jail anyway because their visas had expired. "The boys received deportation orders on Sept. 25," Atty. Steve Gordon, the New York attorney of one of them, said, "and I admit, I have no explanation as to why they have not yet been deported. Nor can I understand why they are being held in a maximum-security facility. Either the U.S. government is not telling us everything, or else it's true that the Immigration Service simply does not have enough manpower to implement the orders, as they claim."
Meanwhile, however, the five are suffering greatly. The mother of one told Arutz-7's Yosef Zalmanson that she has it from a "first-hand source" that one of them is in "very dangerous psychological condition," and that the others are also suffering. The parents are in close contact with one another, and have become, the mother said, a support group for each other. "Hopefully, when the boys return, we will be able to tell the full story of how we helped each other," she said. She said that she was not allowed to communicate with her son during the six weeks following the arrests. When told that the Consul-General in New York had said that they might be released "next week," she said, "Of course they *might* be - but there has been no indication at all that anything has changed since a month or six weeks ago. The whole thing is one big question mark."
"Even the Israeli Consul-General in New York was allowed to visit only after asking several times and receiving a special permit," Katie Shmuel, the mother of another of the youths, told Arutz-7's Yosef Zalmanson yesterday. "He was allowed to talk to them only in English, and only from behind a glass partition. The Consul told me that the boys are in a bad state and that they are being held under difficult conditions." It has since been learned, however, that some of them were granted improved conditions two days ago.
Mrs. Shmuel said that President Moshe Katzav, New York Mayor Giuliani and others had attempted to intervene, but there have been no results so far. The youths are being held in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. When asked if the local Jewish community had gotten involved, both mothers said that they had been in contact with "someone there" but that they had not seen results.
A spokesperson for the Israeli Consulate in New York told Arutz-7 that in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, "the Americans now have different procedures for dealing with the detention of anyone arrested in connection with the attacks. Every single request of ours must go through the FBI and the State Department's legal team" - even though the terrorism charges have long been dropped. "We are doing as much as we possibly can on their behalf," she said.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=11883&PHPSESSID=66af062e7dd46185b3409e0034bf9b7f
Interesting.
How do these publications make this determination (Jew, not a Jew) about three punks arrested in the USA?
fits arroused curiosity
No.
If I were sick I would not be aware that this area if inquiry is despicable.
Has anyone done the demographics? Why not? Some in the Muslim world are accusing Israel of having warned the Jewish workers to stay away. The best way to refute this despicable allegation is a demographics study. Do it.
When I moved two years ago, the movers except one were also young Israelis. I have NEVER had nicer, more helpful movers. I had the flu and my little one was running around and my husband had an emergency at work so he couldn't help me, and we were behind schedule to move, and I was ready to drop from exhaustion. The Israeli youths helped me pack boxes and kept saying in broken English, Don't worry, we'll help you, we understand. Their kindness was overwhelming.
Oh you racist. You bad person you. All those palestinians and Arab Islamics and other Islamics laughing and carrying on when 9/11 occurred. You want all these to burn in hell and they don't even have a chance to repent. You must be a religious fanatic.
What ever was I thinking!
They should all have ACLU lowyers and a fair trial and granted the opportunity to make restitution earning minimum wage making small rocks out of big rocks while anthrax blisters their skin and makes mush out of their lungs and our best Jewish doctors keep them alive to experience more agony.
Then they can go to Hell.
Unless it is TIC (please tell me that it is), I think we have a winner for the most deranged post of the day.
Those darn allegedly Episcopalean Jews are at it again. Enjoy this guy while he lasts guys. Methinks it won't be long.
Gaza May 21st Wafa, Head of the emergency in Alshifa Hospital in Gaza, stated that it seems to be that Israel has started a new genocide against the Palestinian people by poisoning them, using poisoned candy bags dropped down from airplanes.
He based his suspicion upon four peculiar cases of poisoning as a result of touching and smelling candy bags that were dropped from an Israeli airplane at Beit Lahia north to Gaza City.
He said that when the four examined the bags, they felt bad and vomited, and were rushed to the hospital.
He added that the initial testing for these bags showed that the candies smell like coconuts, were poisoned and there is a strong doubt that the candy contains radioactive materials!.
Finally he warned Palestinian citizens to be alert and aware of any suspicious goods.
They both agree "the five..were almost immediately cleared by authorities" and "the investigators realized that they had made a mistake". I would like to see these allegations supported in the American press.
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