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Mohammed's Prophecies of the Imam Mahdi (VANITY)
10 - 25 - 2001 | Sabertooth

Posted on 10/25/2001 10:49:28 AM PDT by Sabertooth

I'm looking for information concerning Mohammed's Prophecies of the Imam Mahdi. Particularly where they might shed light on Osama bin Laden's strategies behind the Terror attacks of 9/11.

Specific quotes and sources appreciated.


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KEYWORDS: imamalmahdi; imammahdi; mahdi; twelfthimam
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The other night I saw a post quoting a prophecy of Mohammed that went something like this... "when you see such and such a man in the hills of Afghanistan, you will know that he is the Imam Mahdi. Leave your homes and rally to him."

The gist of it was that Osama bin Laden is setting himself up to fulfill this prophecy, and rally millions to his pan-Islamic Jihad.

Does anyone have the full text of this Islamic prophecy?

Travis McGee has posted what I believe is a very insightful thread on this subject....

Will Osama Appear In Pakistan?

1 posted on 10/25/2001 10:49:28 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Travis McGee; Spirit Of Truth; Victoria Delsoul; CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom...
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2 posted on 10/25/2001 10:50:40 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: harpseal; FITZ; Lent; patent; Manny Festo
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3 posted on 10/25/2001 10:53:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
Ahhh, yes. The Cult of the Hidden Iman. The very first of the "Hidden Ones". The proto messianic cult of Islam. Spread like wildfire across North Africa, jumped across to the Iberian Peninsula hitchhiked to the new world via Protugal and Spain and last popped up in New Mexico in the 60's with the Tejerana "mini-insurgency.

Islamics will be seeing ghostly apparitions of Osama for 400 years. Inevitable. Given the peculiar "viral" qualities of Islamic factionalism, we going to be at this for a long time. The only thing they respect is strong counter force. We'd be well advised to either develop a "Warrior Culture" or start paying for scalps. DNA checked of course. It's worked before. Might work this time as well.

6 posted on 10/25/2001 11:16:50 AM PDT by 115thINTC
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To: The Documentary Lady
If I stumble on to anything else, I'll let you know.

Kinda scary that we might be agreeing on something, huh?

The end is surely near.

7 posted on 10/25/2001 11:17:39 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Manny Festo
Awesome documentation, as usual, Manny.

What was the timeframe for the Eleventh Imam?

8 posted on 10/25/2001 11:21:13 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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This is silly. Anyone who reads Dune knows that the Mahdi is Muad'dib.

Bi la Kaifa!

Regards, Ivan

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9 posted on 10/25/2001 11:23:06 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Sabertooth
Thank you.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

10 posted on 10/25/2001 11:23:59 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: Sabertooth
The Twelfth Imam Legend is a bit like that of King Arthur (who is either in a cave or on an island from where he will return to rescue Albion in her Time of Need) or of either Frederick II or Frederick Barbarossa (cave, who will return to help the Germans in their Time of Need.)

Not to be confused with the Lone Ranger who appears to help Pioneers in their Time of Need.

11 posted on 10/25/2001 11:25:16 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Not to be confused with the Lone Ranger who appears to help Pioneers in their Time of Need.

Also, the Lone Ranger was a friend of Indians.

12 posted on 10/25/2001 11:28:47 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
So he was. I should have noted that.
13 posted on 10/25/2001 11:40:48 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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Allah will bring out from concealment al-Mahdi from my family and just before the day of Judgment; even if only one day were to remain in the life of the world, and he will spread on this earth justice and equity and will eradicate tyranny and oppression.
(Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, P. 99)

The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night.
(Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)

Our Mahdi will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. He will fill the earth with justice as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will rule for seven years.
(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, p. 208; Fusul al-muhimma, p. 275)

After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him. Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground. On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat.
(Abu Dawood)

For our Mahdi, there are two signs. Since the birth of Universe, these events have never taken place. Those two signs are that there will be Lunar Eclipse on the first night of Ramadhan and Solar Eclipse in the middle of Ramadhan.

(Dar-e-Qatni, Vol. 1, P.188)

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14 posted on 10/25/2001 11:45:52 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: Sabertooth
Other ahadeeth inform us that:

* He will be tall
* He will be fair complexioned
* His facial features will be similar to those of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)
* His character will be exactly like that of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)
* His father's name will be Abdullah
* His mother's name will be Aamina
* He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh.
* His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years
* He will receive Knowledge from Allah.

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15 posted on 10/25/2001 11:53:07 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: Sabertooth
I believe this was thread you originally remebered on this subject. i am not enough of a scholar on that book of filth the Koran to really give a whole lot more insight but as something to go along

Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - yorktown

16 posted on 10/25/2001 11:54:20 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: harpseal; Travis McGee; Victoria Delsoul; The Documentary Lady; PRND21; Doctor Stochastic...
YES!!

Harpseal rules!

From Diane Alden...

History has a place in all this, as does Islamic prophecy. Osama bin Laden did not choose to hide out in Afghanistan because he necessarily liked that part of the world. Nor was it because he kind of nominally fought the Russians there. In fact the Arabs, like bin Laden, did little fighting against the Russians. Even now many Afghani fighters look on them as interlopers.

BUT Osama bin Laden understands that, as one historian related, "dying by the thousands to defend the only nation in the world that is actually run by some form of Islamic law (the Shari'ah) they will come and they will die. Not just from Afghanistan and Pakistan but as far afield as Indonesia, Malaysia, the Gulf, Central Asia, Northwest Africa, etc. They did it once before, they will do it again."

Afghanistan has special significance to the world of militant Islam. It was once called Khurasan, along with parts of Iran and Pakistan. Muhammad said: "If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan, join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice, for that is the army of the Imam al-Mahdi and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem." That is one reason Osama bin Laden chose it as his base, or al-Qaida.

The fundamentalists in the Muslim world are waiting for the prophecy of Muhammad to be fulfilled. Muslims will come and fight because Khurasan (Afghanistan) cannot fall. Whether Shi'a or Sunni, just as certain millennial Christians await the coming of Christ the Muslim world of a certain bent believes it is on the verge of the return of the a precursor of the end times, and that is Imam al-Mahdi.

Now, anyone got a source on Diane Alden's quotation?

17 posted on 10/25/2001 12:15:23 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Got it.

4) The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: "We (I and my family) are members of a household that Allah (SWT) has chosen for them the life of the Hereafter over the life of this world; and the members of my household (Ahlul-Bayt) shall suffer a great affliction and they shall be forcefully expelled from their homes after my death; then there will come people from the East (see above hadeeths that say this army will come from Khorasan modern day Iran) carrying black flags, and they will ask for some good to be given to them, but they shall be refused service; as such, they will wage war and emerge victorious, and will be offered that which they desired in the first place, but they will refuse to accept it till they pass it to a man from my family (Ahlul-Bayt) appears to fill the Earth with justice as it has been filled with corruption. So whoever reaches that (time) ought to come to them even if crawling on the ice/snow since among them is the Vice-regent of Allah (Khalifatullah) al-Mahdi."

References:
Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4082,
The History Tabari
al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 11, section 1, pp 250-251

18 posted on 10/25/2001 12:18:09 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Awesome... Thanks so much.
19 posted on 10/25/2001 12:20:03 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
You're welcome.
20 posted on 10/25/2001 12:21:59 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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