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To: Andrew Byler; Travis McGee; harpseal; Squantos; Lent; patent; rebdov; 2sheep; MHGinTN...
The Chicoms aren't behind Osama pig Laden, but they're cheering for him to succeed in crumbling American international influence. The Chicoms are much more ruthless than we and the Isalmicist realize this. You will notice from history what happens when the totalitarian-styled Islamicists come up against the ruthless totalitarian regimes of a major power ... the Islamicists turn their attention to those of us that will give even minimal regard to civilian casualties.

Checkers, Chess?... Oh, definitely Chess! That we in America have failed to deport and will not profile groups for scrutiny will be the main aspect of our culture used against US in the coming terrorist offensives. The game plan of Osama is designed for staging, not necessarily in the following order but to include the following aspects: first, terrorism to confound the United States, exposing our many weaknesses and exploiting our openness, slowly reducing our economy until we are on a survival mode internally, drastically reducing our worldwide economic influence as we wither within; a growing terrorist connection with Hamas and Hezbollah, to create a link for worldwide exploitation of terrorist soldiers of every race possible, for infiltration purposes, obviously; a coup will occur in Saudi Arabia, and the militant Wahhabis will take over, cr4eating another talibanesque regime in the once peaceful Arabian peninsula od al Saud; major terrorist actions will occur in places like the Phillipines, Indonesia, and European cities; Osama or his drone/clone will take the 'reigns' of Saudi Arabia and manipulate the world economy via oil prices.

Yeah, it's a frightening scenario, but it's been prophecied for a very long time, if one has eyes to see. the essential weakness of our Western culture is our concern for life, though we are schizophrenic with that, trying to export a culture of death in abortion policy back by American dollars ... blood money, I'd say. I believe we are beyond being able to be ruthless with nations that harbor and support terrorism and that's why the campaign began in earnest after Bush took office ... Osama&co. were waiting to see if goreghoul won, to adjust their terrorist activities accordingly ... what would Gore have done, witht he full support of the left and liberal sycophancy if a nuke or smallpox attacked had been first, instead of the escalation now enjoined?... Nuclear response or nothing substantial, not the gradual ratcheting up of this current approach ... and that was the first miscalculation of Osama pig Laden, for he expected near indescriminate response and didn't get it, complicating the equations of his planning.

Is there a way to win, now? Sadly, I think the only way to win is to ginore Muslim voices and become much more rtuhless with any nation where the terrorists go or are hidden by the regime, and economically ruthless with countries like Saudi Arabia paralleled by immediate drilling and explorations that make US oil self-sufficient; can you imagine the pressure we will get from our 'NATO' allies if and when Osama or his drone/clone takes control of Saudi oil and begins to cut the tap to European nations? Yes, they will squeal, and it is then that we should step back and make the lazy Euros send their armies to the battles and conquests we have been manning for their uncooperative asses! We should align our nation more with Russia ... the Muslim threat is more real there, at the belly of Russia than it is even here with the terrosits cells operating amongst US. we should profile ALL non-citizens and deport ALL visa-holding visitors, then scrutinize them very carefully as we allow most back into this nation, while hunting down with extreme prejudice the visa holders that don't show up for deportation. We are at war, not at peace. If we don't soon conduct our homefront activities to give US a smarter margin of control over who comes and goes, or goes then comes back, we will be defeated. Oh, we won't cease to exist, but our economic woes here in this nation, coupled with our social violence that will arise as food and energy become more scarce will take US out of the equations Osama is calculating, then he will have a lot less to calculate and manipulate. If the Euro-lazies do not soon get very actively involved, it will be too late for them to ratchet up their military responses when we are taken out of the equations.

By the way, I am a chessplayer and played competitively for my university for three years in college. This is definetly a Chess game of global proportions and we are conducting it as if it is theater limitable. we are about to get a rude awakening from the Phillipines or Europe, coupled with a major event in this nation I fear.

Travis, Osama is likely already in Pakistan, trying to arrange a trip to Mugabeland or other likely out-of-the-way location from which to continue his campaign. He anticipated our moving against Afghanistan and likely left before the last video from him was released, expecting that we would think he taped it in Afghanistan recently when it was prepared weeeks ago. Osama pig Laden doesn't need Pakistani nukes with India chomping at the bit to invade; he has the network arranged to do his demonic bidding already in place else he wouldn't have released the 9/11 events even though they were not but half as successful as he anticipated (eight planes, not four, over a longer period of time; he didn't anticipate Maneta grounding all flights).

71 posted on 10/25/2001 10:52:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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72 posted on 10/25/2001 10:53:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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bump.
75 posted on 10/25/2001 10:56:55 AM PDT by patent
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To: MHGinTN; mercy
Great post, it is certainly high level chess OBL is playing to our tiddly winks.

We had better prepare for my old scenario involving a total cutoff of trade and travel between the West and Islamic nations. Westerners trapped in islamic nations are going to be butchered at some point, and the oil is also going to be cut off.

If OBL makes his triumphal balcony appearance and is believed to be the Mahdi, then his every order will be mandatorily carried out, including by many of our "moderates" in the West, so we had better be prepared to clean up that danger. PC values will only lead to more deaths on the homefront at that time.

While they may be able to bring disease and havoc and economic ruin to the West, what will happen in the Islamic nations after the Great Split will be far worse. In ten years, the islamic capitols and major cities may resemble Kabul or Mogadishu, with warlords and mullahs battling over the rubble. There is one thing moslem arabs do better than killing Westerners, and that is kill each other.

Let them eat their oil.

79 posted on 10/25/2001 11:07:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: MHGinTN
obviously; a coup will occur in Saudi Arabia, and the militant Wahhabis will take over, cr4eating another talibanesque regime in the once peaceful Arabian peninsula

Ummm ... the Wahhabis already control Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is already Talibanesque. In fact, Saudi Arabia created the Taliban through Pakistan. They are our "friends" because they are afraid of Iraq, not because they truly like us. OBL's beef is that they've let us running dog infidels hang about Mohammed's Holy Peninsula a little too long.

116 posted on 10/25/2001 2:28:51 PM PDT by Andrew Byler
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